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Old 07-24-2009, 01:34 PM
 
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Really? It actually says, specifically that health insurance and health care are rights under the constitution?

Really?
Again,

Please study how our legal system works.

"Enabling Legislation" it's called.
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Old 07-24-2009, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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The only peoiple who do not want apublic option system are the Insurance Industry and their patsies.
Well let me see now: Am I in or associated with the Insurance industry? No, I am not.

Am I a "patsy" of the insurance insurance industry? No, I am not

Do I want a "Public Option System"? No, I do not.

Hey Geechie? Your statement above? It is wrong.
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Old 07-24-2009, 01:36 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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I think its my right that I am provided a home on 5 acres of land
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Old 07-24-2009, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Again,

Please study how our legal system works.

"Enabling Legislation" it's called.
As a lawyer, I understand the how the system works.

And sorry, health care / health insurance is not a constitutionally protected / given right

NOR, will you find a court decision that says it is so.
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Old 07-24-2009, 01:38 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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What about all the millions of children in this country who don't have health insurance? Don't they have a right to health coverage?

I didn't have health insurance half my life growing up. When my father got fired from the post office, my brother and I both lost health coverage. After the parents divorced, neither of them could afford to gives us health coverage. We never qualified for Medicaid. I am now a junior in college.......still don't have health insurance......

All my peers in college who are happy with the current health care system have parents providing it to them for FREE! If only all of us were so lucky. At least the people who want UHC recognize that it will cost more in taxes and are willing to pay it.

Republicans make it out to seem that the only people who don't have health insurance are lazy people who do drugs. That blows my mind! The vast majority of those without health insurance are hard working people making minuscule incomes in the service industry.
They are not born into the job like some Third World Countries. Everyone starts out (well the majority) on a level playing field with a free public education. What they choose to do with it during and after is their problem. I'm not a Repub and find that not too hard to understand.
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Old 07-24-2009, 01:39 PM
 
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You want heathcare? Then pay for it yourself! I dont think its fair to use taxpayer money to give free healthcare to people who dont work, or chose to do without it because they prefer doing drugs to bieng responsible. This is getting out of hand, whats next? Everyone should have a free car?
When the definition of "Promote" was changed to mean "Provide". When the educational system began to serve emotion over logic.
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Old 07-24-2009, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I think its my right that I am provided a home on 5 acres of land
Why settle for just 5..get 500 and you can get big bucks from the Farm Bill
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Old 07-24-2009, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Over There
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The only peoiple who do not want apublic option system are the Insurance Industry and their patsies.
That is the key word. Option not mandate. I have no problem with a government option that people PAY into to buy health coverage but a FREE mandated plan. NO!
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Old 07-24-2009, 01:40 PM
 
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As a lawyer, I understand the how the system works.

And sorry, health care / health insurance is not a constitutionally protected / given right

NOR, will you find a court decision that says it is so.
You will, however, see that the public thinks it is a legal right, and therefore it's just a matter of time.

Just like when blacks could not sit in the front of the bus.
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Old 07-24-2009, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Really? It actually says, specifically that health insurance and health care are rights under the constitution?

Really?
The Constitution doesn't specifically say Air Force either. It only mentions Army and Navy. So, is the Air force now unconstitutional? I am not into word games, so I accept the Air Force as constitutional because it is a part of the US military. And if health care falls into General Welfare category, then I would accept its Constitutionality as well. The question is whether or not it falls into that category. No one here has made an attempt to define 'general welfare' yet, or to explain why health care should not fall into that category.
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