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Originally Posted by dcsldcd
No one but the minions of hussein obama and El Gordo believe in the Global Warming Hoax. Let his minions pay and leave those whi have still retained their sanity alone.
Actually, there are many who's heads aren't buried in the sand who believe
Scientists seemed to miss out that Antarctica is accumulating more ice.
We've had this debate a lot on C-D, haven't we? The 'Global Warmers' don't look at the facts; they're heavily influenced by emotional appeal tactics, such as those used by those who profit ($$$) from the Global Warming industry.
Why fight creating new industries and new jobs that end pollution? The U.S. led the way in automobile manufacturing and IT and the Internet with help from government through legislation and massive investments. Why not let us do it again with renewable energy?
The difference is the Internet filled a void where something did not exist, the car industry was brought to you by private investors driven by the incentive to make money by improving their product and provided a vast improvement over the horse and buggy. Each provided new or better products.
FYI air pollution in the U.S. has been dropping since the 70's, CO2 is not a pollutant. It's a greenhouse gas so lets call it what it is.
I wrote up an extensive article here on my own site for those interested in many of the arguments environmentalist will commonly use that when faced with the facts fall like flies:
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Yes they can. I'm not sure how versed you are on the research, but they know precisely which gases are involved and precisely which human activities. In the scientific realm, this phenomenon has always been called climate change.
No doubt there are companies / governments trying to profit and exploit. But, science is science and the correlation between human fossil fuel activity and atmospheric change is pretty hard to refute on some level.
The bottom line, though, is that we need to stop polluting locally. Just look at LA for a microcosm of climate change.
Why fight creating new industries and new jobs that end pollution? The U.S. led the way in automobile manufacturing and IT and the Internet with help from government through legislation and massive investments. Why not let us do it again with renewable energy?
Someone's going to lead in this industry - the days of relying on oil are finished. Might as well be us.
cap and trade does not end pollution. look up the studies and you will see that pollution actually increased with cap and trade: It doesn’t help the environment: If energy costs are going to go up for Americans, shouldn’t there be significant environmental benefit and progress towards reversing climate change? You would think so. But even if the most aggressive of cap and trade schemes were properly adhered to, scientists that both advocate and oppose a cap and trade program widely agree that the maximum drop to the earth’s temperature would be no more than 0.07 degrees Celsius by the year 2050. To give some sense of just how negligible this decrease would be, we cannot even estimate the absolute mean surface temperature of the earth within 0.07. What’s worse is that cap and trade actually provides incentives to emit more carbon, not less. An article by the Christian Science Monitor explains: “By turning carbon emissions into commodities that can be bought and sold, cap-and-trade policies could remove the stigma from producing such emissions.” In other words, if industries understand they are working within a legal framework when they output carbon, the public pressure for them to cut down is weakened. Evidence of this can be seen in Europe where most countries have seen carbon emissions go up, even though the European Union has had a cap and trade regime in place since 2005.
It doesn’t work where it has been tried: Speaking of Europe, let’s take a closer look at how cap and trade is fairing. As mentioned earlier, the EU is watching carbon emission levels rise despite the fact that they have had a cap and trade system since 2005. Furthermore, the Heartland Institute reports that 12 of the 15 EU nations taking part in the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, a program that sets greenhouse gas reduction targets and serves as a precursor to cap and trade, are failing to meet their reduction targets, with three going over by more than 10 percent and another three going over by more than 20 percent. In fact, emissions for all EU countries went up on average 2.1 percent between 2000 and 2004. Compare this with the United States where currently no such regulatory regime exists and yet emissions went up only 1.3 percent during the same time period. Nonetheless, President Obama has announced an aggressive set of targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions, promising to “work expeditiously with key stakeholders and the Congress to develop an economy-wide emissions reduction program to reduce greenhouse gas emissions approximately 14 percent below 2005 levels by 2020, and approximately 83 percent below 2005 levels by 2050.”
it is a scheme disguised as an environmental program.
Why would they buy global warming, its July in Wisconsin, and we are struggling to break 80 degrees here. Where in the hell is the global warming????
They covered their bases with the name change to "Climate Change".
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