Roe v. Wade and Universal Health Care (insurance, companies, abortion)

[TomDot]

Universal Health Care will put the government squarely into the patient/doctor relationship. Decisions that are made privately between a doctor and his/her patient will now include some kind of governmental medical bureau who will have the final say (considering that they will be the ones holding the purse strings).

Question: Wasn't the constitutionality of this decided in 1973? How can pro-choicers get behind a concept that goes against the privacy issue that is central to Roe v. Wade?

Not flaming here. I just want to know how this works.

And yes, I do realize that insurance companies wield this power now.

[DC at the Ridge]

If you realize that insurance companies already wield the power, and that in universal health care the government becomes the insurance company, what exactly are you arguing will change?

[TomDot]

Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge

If you realize that insurance companies already wield the power, and that in universal health care the government becomes the insurance company, what exactly are you arguing will change?

I asked first.

[Ceece]

Planned Parenthood won't care.

[TomDot]

Originally Posted by Ceece

Planned Parenthood won't care.

I don't imagine they will considering abortion rights will be greatly expanded.

[idahogie]

Originally Posted by TomDot

Universal Health Care will put the government squarely into the patient/doctor relationship. Decisions that are made privately between a doctor and his/her patient will now include some kind of governmental medical bureau who will have the final say (considering that they will be the ones holding the purse strings).

Nobody - NOBODY - is proposing universal health care. Nobody is even proposing single-payer health care. What we have under consideration is a very weak public program to help a small portion of Americans to get decent insurance coverage. And the right is working feverishly to kill that.

[DC at the Ridge]

Originally Posted by TomDot

I asked first.

Then the answer is nothing.

[Randomstudent]

Originally Posted by TomDot

Universal Health Care will put the government squarely into the patient/doctor relationship. Decisions that are made privately between a doctor and his/her patient will now include some kind of governmental medical bureau who will have the final say (considering that they will be the ones holding the purse strings).

Question: Wasn't the constitutionality of this decided in 1973? How can pro-choicers get behind a concept that goes against the privacy issue that is central to Roe v. Wade?

Not flaming here. I just want to know how this works.

And yes, I do realize that insurance companies wield this power now.

That is why I support public option. If the government and private industry compete neither one will hold that power exclusively and the consumers will ultimately get to choose what plan they want.

[TomDot]

Originally Posted by idahogie

Nobody - NOBODY - is proposing universal health care. Nobody is even proposing single-payer health care. What we have under consideration is a very weak public program to help a small portion of Americans to get decent insurance coverage. And the right is working feverishly to kill that.

The fever is occurring on the left. And it involves ramming a healthcare bill through before the summer recess before anyone has the time to read it or understand it.

How could you be so cavalier about changing the American healthcare system?

[TomDot]

Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge

Then the answer is nothing.

Question: How can pro-choicers get behind a concept that goes against the privacy issue that is central to Roe v. Wade?

Answer: Nothing.

Hmmm!
O.K.!