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Old 08-01-2009, 09:56 AM
 
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Where on earth do you people get the idea that conservatives don't want Obama to succeed? It's the trampling on the Constitution and his determination to minimize, or take away, basic freedoms that we don't like and won't stand for.
such as.

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I am a fiscal and social conservative who didn't like George Bush's policies any more than I like Obama's. His administration, especially the second term was a disaster and Obama's looks to be even worse if the two sides can't come together in the best interests of the American people. And that's where the problems lie...in being so set on pushing their own agendas that the will of the people, and what's truly best for the country, gets lost. Both parties are guilty!

We should start off wishing every President well and hope that he governs with a respect for the laws of the land and a true willingness to do what's in the best interest of the country as a whole - not to the benefit of special interests or the promotion of a single party. We haven't had that, not in Bush or in Obama.
why on earth do you say we havent had that in Obama?
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Oh please spare us your whining.
You know I am right. Call it what you wish!
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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This forum.
It is obvious that they are wishing, hoping and praying for Obama to FAIL and for our country to decline. They are just mad because they cannot ruin the country anymore than they did the past 8 years. They had fantasies about another Great Depression and WW3 with Iran and maybe Russia! And their fantasy is now ruined.
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:13 AM
 
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It is obvious that they are wishing, hoping and praying for Obama to FAIL and for our country to decline. They are just mad because they cannot ruin the country anymore than they did the past 8 years. They had fantasies about another Great Depression and WW3 with Iran and maybe Russia! And their fantasy is now ruined.
"If we're able to stop Obama on this, it will be his Waterloo. It will break him."

Now that's what's important! Got new ideas for health care, Repugs? Well, we have this four page coffee-stained outline.
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:18 AM
 
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Exactly. Watch also for the word "racist" to be hurled at those who disagree with anything Obama does. Its a shaming word used to silence dissent. Fortunately people are seeing through it, and the word is losing all coherent meaning through overuse and misapplication.
Fortunately this peculiar bit of faux-victim fantasy has no basis in reality. When people say racist things others call them out on it. I defy you to find an exchange in this entire forum in which someone is criticizing, say, the health care plan or federal spending and is called a racist for it.
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:35 AM
 
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I'm having one of those "delusional" moments again......
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:36 AM
 
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I'm having one of those "delusional" moments again......
without quoting posts directly or identifying anyone, can you paraphrase the relevant parts of such an exchange?

There arent any on here.
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:37 AM
 
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It is obvious that they are wishing, hoping and praying for Obama to FAIL and for our country to decline. They are just mad because they cannot ruin the country anymore than they did the past 8 years. They had fantasies about another Great Depression and WW3 with Iran and maybe Russia! And their fantasy is now ruined.
I will give Obama credit. His administration has adopted virtually the entire collection of Bush administration anti-terrorism policies and in some cases sought to strengthen them, e.g. the resumption of military tribunals, indefinite detention, and in doing so validated them completely. And I'm sure as January approaches the administration will see the wisdom of keeping Guantanamo open. So while I wish Obama to fail in his domestic agenda I'm quite satisfied with his continuation of the Bush administration's anti terrorism policies and practices.
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:40 AM
 
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I will give Obama credit. His administration has adopted virtually the entire collection of Bush administration anti-terrorism policies and in some cases sought to strengthen them, e.g. the resumption of military tribunals, indefinite detention, and in doing so validated them completely. And I'm sure as January approaches the administration will see the wisdom of keeping Guantanamo open. So while I wish Obama to fail in his domestic agenda I'm quite satisfied with his continuation of the Bush administration's anti terrorism policies and practices.
If they do keep Guantanamo open, I trust there'll be better supervision and Im sure that trials will move ahead apace.
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:42 AM
 
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LOL, after Obama and comapny are done it will take decades for the Democrats to recover if at all.
Even after the implosion people are starting to see that imploded party as a better solution than the current nuclear explosion called liberalism.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo..._vote-901.html

Starting in april and moving up to current date it's been blue for months, until now. Some had double digit leads. Now it's pretty much within the margin of error.
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