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Old 08-04-2009, 01:22 AM
 
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Then why does she have such a difficult time understanding the Constitution? When I saw her on The Colbert Report, she stated that Obama cannot be POTUS because his father was born in Kenya. This time she didn't bother to check the history of Kenya.



IIRC she is also a black belt in Tae-Kwon-Do.
If she's that easy, why is the SC terrified to hear her case?

I think they know exactly what her Constitutional issue is and don't want it near them.

She's one woman and she's got the SC hiding the Constitution up their collective robes.
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:30 AM
 
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Lol, what is it with some people that assume crazy women frighten people?
First, people fear Palin (because she's so smart, said one right-wing radio host).
Now, its the SC fearing Orly.

Comedy.
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:32 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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If you really want to know her motives all you have to do is deposit a certain amount of cash into her paypal account and she will respond via email with all the information that you are interested in.
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:42 AM
 
Location: New York, New York
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Default What Is Dr. Orly Taitz's Motive?

No motive, she is just another desperate conservative that has gone off the edge and made a fool of herself.....much like the many of the nut job conservatives on this forum.
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:55 AM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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If she's that easy, why is the SC terrified to hear her case?
Can you imagine if the Supreme Court heard every bogus case? She just presented a forged document so she proved she has no credibility whatsoever.

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I think they know exactly what her Constitutional issue is and don't want it near them.
Which Constitution is that? Russia?

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She's one woman and she's got the SC hiding the Constitution up their collective robes.
Oy! So, in other words, the Supreme Court should NOT refer to the Constitution of the United States?

Actually, I agree with you because Obama isn't just an illegal alien, he's a real alien! AFAIK if you are from another planet, you can't serve as President of the United States. Let's take this to the Supreme Court. If they won't hear us, it proves they're covering up Obama's true identity! After all, I have the proof! Here is a photo I found in the Intergalactic Times.

http://bestsmileys.com/aliens/1.gif (broken link)
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Old 08-04-2009, 02:00 AM
 
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Nope, its still about a few odd balls of the right - its never been about demo vs republican.
Sane vs insane, perhaps.
Alinsky's Rules for Leftist Radicals:
RULE 1: "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have." Power is derived from 2 main sources - money and people. "Have-Nots" must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)





RULE 2: "Never go outside the expertise of your people." It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don't address the "real" issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)





RULE 3: "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy." Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)





RULE 4: "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules." If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity's very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)





RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)





RULE 6: "A good tactic is one your people enjoy." They'll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They're doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid "un-fun" activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)





RULE 7: "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag." Don't become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)





RULE 8: "Keep the pressure on. Never let up." Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)





RULE 9: "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself." Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists' minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)





RULE 10: "If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive." Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management's wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)





RULE 11: "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative." Never let the enemy score points because you're caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)





RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)
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Old 08-04-2009, 02:13 AM
 
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Default Question: Should the President of the U.S. be required to show his papers?

Have you ever had to show YOUR papers?

Is the president above the law?

To whom is he required to answer while serving?
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:54 AM
 
Location: MI
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Carol Swain's a nutcase, too.

Obama's already released his birth certificate. What do the birthers want? The state of Hawai'i has his birth certificate, but the birthers are not willing to accept that birth certificate. So what birth certificate are they hoping to see?
YES, she is.
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:05 AM
 
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No motive, she is just another desperate conservative that has gone off the edge and made a fool of herself.....much like the many of the nut job conservatives on this forum.



"Bomber Niner-One to base. Enemy flak is increasing. Approaching target. Over"
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:21 AM
 
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Alinsky's Rules for Leftist Radicals:
RULE 1: "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have." Power is derived from 2 main sources - money and people. "Have-Nots" must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)





RULE 2: "Never go outside the expertise of your people." It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals don't address the "real" issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)





RULE 3: "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy." Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)





RULE 4: "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules." If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity's very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)





RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)





RULE 6: "A good tactic is one your people enjoy." They'll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. They're doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid "un-fun" activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)





RULE 7: "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag." Don't become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)





RULE 8: "Keep the pressure on. Never let up." Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)





RULE 9: "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself." Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists' minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)





RULE 10: "If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive." Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred management's wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)





RULE 11: "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative." Never let the enemy score points because you're caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)





RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)
Macchiavelli does it better.
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