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Old 08-04-2009, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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To one side it is hateful, it is not factual and you have no evidence to back it up.

I am not trying to be overly critical and if I Haven't read to much into your past posts to see your criticisms of both sides then I am at fault here.

I am young and I get riled up myself sometimes, but don't consider myself to be hateful
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LML does not generally use sobriquets such as "righties" when she posts, but you see no discrepancy in judgment when "leftie" is used? I think LML would join me in suggesting that you find a used copy of The Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis. One doesn't have to be a Christian to benefit from his writings and his perceptive views on human nature. Then read as many of Shakespeare's plays as possible: he had Freud and Jung beat by centuries. Then read Thomas Wolfe's Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test just as a treat. You'll thank us forever.
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:01 PM
 
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Excellent! My offspring loved nothing more than 1/2 cup of ketchup to get that veggie requirement.

1) The a) Trilateral Commission
b) Bilderburg Group
3) International Zionists
4) Club of Rome
5) Lizard People
6) Any one or combination of the above
are secretly running the world.
2) Mental illness can be cured by sending the patients to another city via
bus or train, that being left on the street.
3) Rock and roll was sent by the devil to corrupt us.
4) Homosexuality was discovered in 1950 and can be "cured."
5) People who read books or travel extensively are "elitists."
6) A person's worth is determined by their financial status.
maybe the trilateral commission isn't running the world, but it can't be denied that obama appointed 11 members of the trilateral commission to key government appointments. According to official Trilateral Commission membership lists, there are only 87 members from the United States (the other 337 members are from other regions). Thus, in less than two weeks since his inauguration, Obama's appointments encompass more than 12% of Commission's entire U.S. membership.


Secretary of Treasury, Tim Geithner
Ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Rice
National Security Advisor, Gen. James L. Jones
Deputy National Security Advisor, Thomas Donilon
Chairman, Economic Recovery Committee, Paul Volker
Director of National Intelligence, Admiral Dennis C. Blair
Assistant Secretary of State, Asia & Pacific, Kurt M. Campbell
Deputy Secretary of State, James Steinberg
State Department, Special Envoy, Richard Haass
State Department, Special Envoy, Dennis Ross
State Department, Special Envoy, Richard Holbrooke
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Chum for the CD crazies. Certainly hope you've set your lines...
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To paraphrase Roy Scheider in Jaws, "We're gonna need a bigger boat."
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:21 PM
 
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My favorite conspiracy is an American government who has the intelligence and cohesiveness to hide an alien spaceship crash near near Roswell, New Mexico since 1947.
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Old 08-04-2009, 07:05 PM
 
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Most thinking beings, recognize that there is a continuum of craziness and all "functional" humans fall somewhere on the "crazy scale".

Whether it's a belief that there is an Easter Bunny, or Santa Claus (and I don't mean going along for the kiddies), or that the phone company killed President Kennedy, or that we faked the moon landing, there are a lot of whack jobs out there.

Starting at the (more of less) harmless and working up to the "full on whack job", here's my unofficial list:

1. There's a warehouse (somewhere) full of "WWII era Harley Davidson's, all packed in "cosmoline" and you can buy them for a dollar each.

2. Send this email to Bill Gates and he'll give you a new PC.

3. The government is going to start charging for sending emails to pay for the USPS.

4. My neighbor dried his chihuahua in the microwave and it exploded.

5. Bill Clinton had a private airfield in Arkansas where the CIA used to fly in cocaine for him.

6. George Bush attended all his ANG meetings.

7. NASA faked the moon landings.

8. There's a tape of Obama tongue kissing his Reverend.

9. There's a tape of Michelle Obama using the word "whitey" in a derogatory way.

10. Obama is "hiding" his birth records.

11. Obama has the DOJ lawyers on overtime fighting to keep from releasing his birth records.

12. Hillary Clinton murdered Vince Foster because he was trying to hide Obama's Kenyan birth certificate.

13. Michelle Malkin writes her own stuff.

14. Obama is a secret member of "Black Skull and Bones" because he wasn't allowed to join the "real" one.

15. The "tea party" movement was a "spontaneous" popular uprising.

16. The disrupters at this recess's town hall meetings are "spontaneous, concerned citizens confronting their elected representatives".

17. Dick Cheney had "proof" that Saddam had nuclear weapons, but his dog ate the map.

18. The "birther" movement is a creation of the DNC to discredit the RNC.

We've all met, heard or read people who have some, or all of these beliefs, and in many cases much wilder ones. But I wonder what is your "break point for (1) laughing in their faces, (2) nodding at their statements and backing away, (3) backing away, (4) calling your local mental health department, (5), making sure your holster is unstrapped, (6) calling 911.

golfgod

I cannot understand why the left is so exciteable. Didn't the dems win the presidency and control the senate and congress, or did I miss something. Chill out and be happy. These things are cylical and you will have plenty of time to be angry in the future.

Which brings up a funny thing I have noticed. All the liberal politcal editorial authors have completely stopped discussing politics and now talk about bike trails, PTA, and other issues which have absolutely nothing to do with politics. It is like someone sent them all a memo to never critcize Obama at all, so they just discuss nonsense. I bet they miss Bush, as they had plenty of vitriole then.
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Old 08-04-2009, 07:14 PM
 
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My favorite conspiracy is an American government who has the intelligence and cohesiveness to hide an alien spaceship crash near near Roswell, New Mexico since 1947.
Yes! That one too.

Then, there's the Sasquatch connection, he comes in every 4 years to vote for whatever GOP'er looks most like him....
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:16 PM
 
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Yes! That one too.

Then, there's the Sasquatch connection, he comes in every 4 years to vote for whatever GOP'er looks most like him....
Conspiracy-freaks inhabit both sides of the political spectrum but a Big Mouth, first cousin to Big Foot, would surely run as a Dem.
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Old 08-04-2009, 08:19 PM
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Location: Wisconsin
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Yes! That one too.

Then, there's the Sasquatch connection, he comes in every 4 years to vote for whatever GOP'er looks most like him....
Okay now THAT'S funny.....I don't care what anyone says. Thanks for the laugh.
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Old 08-05-2009, 07:37 AM
 
Location: State of Being
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anifani821 wrote;

Ah yes, the same people who 8 months ago told us that they neither "know or associate with anyone who supports Obama or any other liberal", now tell us this pack of carp. Funny how almost all of you use almost the exact sentence. It's kind of like a form letter, or emial that you received from your keeper with instructions to use it to refute anyone who supports Obama or laughs at the right wing nuts.

I know lots of people who voted for Obama, and lots that didn't, some are unhappy, often that he's not been able to accomplish as much as they hoped. But NONE of them feel that he's a "black nationalist" (whatever that is?), who "cloaked himself in coded language".

golfgod
Excuse me . . . if you are referring to me with your condescending and arrogant post . . . you are very wrong. Many of my friends voted for Obama believing in change. I am not a straight ticket voter and have been voting for about 4 decades and have voted for GOP, DEM and IND candidates (voted for a Libertarian along the way, too). I did not get my info out of some email or from someone else's talking points. I do not even LISTEN to talk radio. Your presumptuous attitude is exactly why there is no real discussion going on in this country (and on this forum). Rather, folks with your attitude seem to only wish to belittle, degrade and dismiss anyone who doesn't think like you do.

Discussion means hearing both sides of an issue.

I wrote that I know folks who are feeling betrayed by Obama b/c it appears his "change" agenda is actually a socialist agenda - and he is pushing through legislation without getting input from all interested parties, including legislators in his own party have had to fight to get their voices heard.

Just because someone disagrees with a policy or a President's methodology, it doesn't mean that person is a wacko. And it doesn't mean that person has nothing to bring to the table.

I find it interesting that there are people in this country who are so quick to beat down opposing opinions and feel the best way to do that is to discredit the messenger. No one is right all the time. A good leader knows this and seeks consensus, not division.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:52 AM
 
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anifani821 wrote;
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I wrote that I know folks who are feeling betrayed by Obama b/c it appears his "change" agenda is actually a socialist agenda - and he is pushing through legislation without getting input from all interested parties, including legislators in his own party have had to fight to get their voices heard.
Then I would suggest you ask these people which part of Obama's campaign platform, and his daily "stump" speech excited them to the point of voting for him, that they now think is "socialist". Because if they know anything about socialism they won't be able to do it. They will however begin to repeat the same Bill Kristol, Sean Hannity, Drudge, FoxNews rant about socialism and how Obama is going to "kill granny".

How is Obama "pushing through" legislation without input from Dems? Do you, or these friends understand anything about the legislative process? No one has had to "fight" to get their voice heard! NO ONE (sorry for shouting that), except idiots believe John Boehner's LIE that none of the Republicans were allowed to attend, speak at or have any input in House meetings.

If you are as widely varied in your political opinions, and a thinking person as you claim to be, you should not need me to point out these fallacies to you. The only people who believe any of the stuff that your friends say is people who get all of their opinions from right wing sources. Those arguments are very easy to refute with facts, but just like on here FACTS DO NOT MATTER to these people.

golfgod
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