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Old 08-06-2009, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Over There
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One little problem doing what you desire: ITS NOT CHILD ABUSE.

The problem is, you simply do not agree with the way she handles things - and, because she is doing something you do not agree with - you think it is legally wrong.

Well, there ain't no owners manual for raising kids - putting kids on leash's is not illegal - period.

No charges

That child could have been hurt very badly. What if they smashed their head on something? Or got cut with something on the floor? Just because nothing did happen does not mean she did not put her child in danger by doing this.
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Old 08-06-2009, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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That child could have been hurt very badly. What if they smashed their head on something? Or got cut with something on the floor? Just because nothing did happen does not mean she did not put her child in danger by doing this.
But he wasn't. We put our children in danger everyday simply by putting them in a car, by letting them play on playgrounds, by letting them cross the street. That's not a measure of abuse. Life is full of dangers and this particular one doesn't rise to the level of abuse. To claim this is abuse cheapens the concept of abuse and is an insult to those who have truly been abused.
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Old 08-06-2009, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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That child could have been hurt very badly. What if they smashed their head on something? Or got cut with something on the floor? Just because nothing did happen does not mean she did not put her child in danger by doing this.
IT'S NOT CHILD ABUSE.

I'm afraid that you are going to have to accept that people will raise their children differentlly than you might - and you may not agree with those methods - but, it DOES NOT mean it is child abuse.

I use to "drag" my kids around the floor with them holding a rope - they love it. And my Dad did the very same thing to me when I was a kid
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Old 08-06-2009, 04:52 PM
 
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But he wasn't. We put our children in danger everyday simply by putting them in a car, by letting them play on playgrounds, by letting them cross the street. That's not a measure of abuse. Life is full of dangers and this particular one doesn't rise to the level of abuse. To claim this is abuse cheapens the concept of abuse and is an insult to those who have truly been abused.

When I put my child in a car they go in a car seat all protective measures taken. When my child plays on the playground I am constantly supervising them and telling them no to things that can hurt them, all protect measures taken, when my child crosses the street they hold my hand, all protective measures taken. This woman DID NOT TAKE ANY PROTECTIVE MEASURE. She could have carried the child, put them in a stroller, put them in a cart she did nothing to protect her child from harm.

If she treats this child like this in public I can only imagine how she treats him in private.
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Old 08-06-2009, 04:54 PM
 
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IT'S NOT CHILD ABUSE.

I'm afraid that you are going to have to accept that people will raise their children differentlly than you might - and you may not agree with those methods - but, it DOES NOT mean it is child abuse.

I use to "drag" my kids around the floor with them holding a rope - they love it. And my Dad did the very same thing to me when I was a kid
Did your dad drag you though a store where there were many thing you could have hit your head on or was he careful enough to do it where you would not get hurt. I would also love to know what she did when she reached the parking lot and asphalt.
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Old 08-06-2009, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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O sweet geezus lots of you sound like bleed'n hearts.. your baseing the so called abuse on what ifs.. the kid was a brat .. sure mom coulda done this diffrently but she didnt .. kid got a free drag & didnt get hurt ..... and prolly had fun being dragged .. the mall was carpeted no harm done ..

being kind to a kids little ego by allowing them to be turdblossoms in public just galls the crap outta me ..kids today for the most part arent taught to mind in public like they should be because parents are so afraid of the cops being called on them for acting like a parent that things like this happen ..
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Old 08-06-2009, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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Did your dad drag you though a store where there were many thing you could have hit your head on or was he careful enough to do it where you would not get hurt.
No - just around the corral with the horses having to move real fast -

Fact is - you cannot insulate and isolate your kids all the time. There is going to be a time when you have to let go. They are going to fall off that swing and skin their knee. They are going to fall of the bike and scape their elbow.

Neither you, nor I, know anything about the facts in this video - and if I may - you are really jumping to conclusions without having any or all of the facts -
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Old 08-06-2009, 05:17 PM
 
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No - just around the corral with the horses having to move real fast -

Fact is - you cannot insulate and isolate your kids all the time. There is going to be a time when you have to let go. They are going to fall off that swing and skin their knee. They are going to fall of the bike and scape their elbow.
You are correct but when you are the one causing the scraped knees and elbows that is very different.

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Neither you, nor I, know anything about the facts in this video - and if I may - you are really jumping to conclusions without having any or all of the facts -
You are correct I don't know what the child was doing but I know the mother had better options and since she is the adult should have made those choices. I simple don't think anything the child did warrants them being dragged across the floor.
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Old 08-06-2009, 05:22 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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When I put my child in a car they go in a car seat all protective measures taken. When my child plays on the playground I am constantly supervising them and telling them no to things that can hurt them, all protect measures taken, when my child crosses the street they hold my hand, all protective measures taken. This woman DID NOT TAKE ANY PROTECTIVE MEASURE. She could have carried the child, put them in a stroller, put them in a cart she did nothing to protect her child from harm.
She was sliding the kid down the middle of a wide aisle of a big box store with a smooth floor surface. Where's the danger?

There are people who think that hovering parents who constantly warn and protect a child of all the dangers -- real and imagined -- in this world are doing the child no good. These are the parents who grow up to become helicopter parents, hovering over their adult children trying to protect them from harms -- real and imagined. It stifles maturation for that child. They stay children, even when they are chronologically adults.
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Old 08-06-2009, 05:30 PM
 
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She was sliding the kid down the middle of a wide aisle of a big box store with a smooth floor surface. Where's the danger?

There are people who think that hovering parents who constantly warn and protect a child of all the dangers -- real and imagined -- in this world are doing the child no good. These are the parents who grow up to become helicopter parents, hovering over their adult children trying to protect them from harms -- real and imagined. It stifles maturation for that child. They stay children, even when they are chronologically adults.

Ok so because I don't drag my child across the floor I am over protective and stifling. Great logic.
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