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Old 08-05-2009, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Keep on spinnin', facts are facts. The good ol' USA is being beat out by MANY different countries in this area. As a mother of 4,I know how screw- ups by doctors nearly killed 3 of my 4 children. You don't need a PHD to figure out there's something rotten in Denmark.... well maybe not Denmark. Safer having babies there!

Please provide the link between socialized medicine and infantr mortality rates. The only one spinning here is you. You make a straight forward statement yet cannot back it up with evidence.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:09 PM
 
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I am not spinning anything... if you have such great experience in international medicine than right a book... I doubt there be anyone there to read it...
Hmmm... how does one "right" a book?
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:17 PM
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Location: Foot of the Rockies
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According to a Time magazine article last week, even when disaggregated by race, the best the US does is 26th for whites.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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OK since you won't do it I will.

Pajamas Media The Doctor Is In: Infant Mortality Comparisons a Statistical Miscarriage

Infant mortality rate needs definition overhaul - Editorial
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:18 PM
 
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Please provide the link between socialized medicine and infantr mortality rates. The only one spinning here is you. You make a straight forward statement yet cannot back it up with evidence.
WHERE in my OP did I even MENTION a link between socialized medicine & infant mortality rates,pray tell? I was merely presenting the facts;& stating that the US could be doing SO much better,all the way around.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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According to a Time magazine article last week, even when disaggregated by race, the best the US does is 26th for whites.

See above for the reason why.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:19 PM
 
Location: mancos
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Keep on spinnin', facts are facts. The good ol' USA is being beat out by MANY different countries in this area. As a mother of 4,I know how screw- ups by doctors nearly killed 3 of my 4 children. You don't need a PHD to figure out there's something rotten in Denmark.... well maybe not Denmark. Safer having babies there!
mabey you should have taken good care of yourself and had your children at home. hospitals are for sick people not moms. stop being so damm dependent on everybodyelse and live.both my daughters were born at home and both are college grads and doing fine. no docs to blame here just my free American self. and you cant sue yourself
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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WHERE in my OP did I even MENTION a link between socialized medicine & infant mortality rates,pray tell? I was merely presenting the facts;& stating that the US could be doing SO much better,all the way around.

Are you kidding me? Look at the title of your link in the first post.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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The current system is broken because health care has been turned from the healing arts into plain old businesses. It's unbelievable that people aren't outraged at our infant mortality rate, but in terms of a general mortality rate, we rank 50th. It's difficult to say that we have "the best health care in the world" when the statistics don't back that up that contention.
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Old 08-05-2009, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Pawnee Nation
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Please provide the link between socialized medicine and infantr mortality rates.
People with socialized medicine see their doctor on a regular basis. That means lots of prenatal and postnatal care. That means a lower infant mortality rate. On the other hand, in this society where copays can bankrupt a young family and many young people are working for fairly low wages, many don't have health insurance. That means when they start a family, they don't have the money to meet the deductible, consequently they don't get the prenatal or the post natal care they need. The end result is that in countries with socialized medicine the infant mortality is less than in a society where you must have copays that can bankrupt a family.
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