do you support the war(s) effort? (Iran, legal, Afghanistan)
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Afghanistan is where Empires go to die. We never should have gone there in the first place. History has shown that you can bribe Afghanis but you cannot beat them at their own game.
I don't think we should have been in Iraq in the first place, but now that we are there, I find it hard to see us just up and leaving.
Seriously, I think GWB, Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, and several others should be tried for treason. I don't know about executing them, but they were either extremely derelict in their duties, or they flat out lied about the intelligence in the run up to the Iraq war. However, now that we've walked in the party and slapped everyone around, I don't think we can leave without making up for it.
I've always supported the war effort in Afghanistan, and I always will.
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i guess you would have to post your answer based on whether those reasons were compelling enough in your own mind to justify being in both countries. the fact is that both wars are currently intertwined.
They didn't have to be, I believe the terror training facilities in Afghanistan justified that war, Iraq was little more than Bush's predetermined personal vendetta launched in the frenzy of post 9/11 America.
we are still in iraq. we are now in afghanistan and increasing troop strength. we are going into pakistan. what part of that don't you see as an escalation of war effort?
we are still in iraq. we are now in afghanistan and increasing troop strength. we are going into pakistan. what part of that don't you see as an escalation of war effort?
We are drawing down troops in Iraq. I think we'll be down to 20,000 or so troops over the next 4 years there.
Afghanistan, we should have been there, and we need to stay there till its done.
I haven't seen us going into Pakistan. Pakistan has nuclear weapons, we can't just go in there and do whatever we want.
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we are still in iraq. we are now in afghanistan and increasing troop strength. we are going into pakistan. what part of that don't you see as an escalation of war effort?
Uh, when did I say I didn't?
Read your own question, it's about effort and funding. Seems obvious to me if someone supports a war effort they'll support the funding for what needs to be done, if that means escalation then so be it.
But still, they are two separate wars and your question doesn't recognize that fact.
We are drawing down troops in Iraq. I think we'll be down to 20,000 or so troops over the next 4 years there.
Afghanistan, we should have been there, and we need to stay there till its done.
I haven't seen us going into Pakistan. Pakistan has nuclear weapons, we can't just go in there and do whatever we want.
We liberated Kuwait eighteen years ago and they have yet to opt for democracy. In the Muslim world more important than freedom and democracy is tribe and religion. We have made the good college try for over seven years and now should realize that we are not going to teach warlords to like democracy and grow cotton instead of poppies.
Now some answer to prevent Afghanistan from becoming a safe haven for Al Qaida. I called the State Department after 9/11, and it reported Al Qaida in forty-five countries, including the United States, but not Iraq. Now we have spread Al Qaida to Iraq and determined to have Al Qaida grow in Afghanistan. What we can't understand is that we are creating terrorism in Afghanistan and Pakistan. The Taliban were our best friends in Charlie Wilson's War -- the only war we've won since World War II. I helped Charlie on the Senate side. I didn't know what was going on, but he was getting Israel to send Stinger missiles to Muslim Pakistan to shoot down the Russians. Now we are determined to turn our former friends into enemies and destroy Pakistan. Yesterday I read an article that it won't be long before charging President George W. Bush with war crimes for killing civilians in Pakistan with drones. Now the same charge could be made against President Obama. Five years ago, I was in Pakistan to learn that Osama bin Laden had a sixty percent approval rating and President Bush was at ten percent. I wouldn't advise an America to walk the streets of any city in Pakistan today. We are ruining Pakistan. Finally, I'm given the answer, "to stabilize Afghanistan." The best way to stabilize is to get out. (senator hollings)
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