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Old 09-10-2009, 04:42 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Okiegirlfriend View Post
American Health Care, as it now exists, is in the business of saving LIVES. BO's health care is in the business of saving MONEY. Which do you feel is more important---saving lives or saving money? My vote is for lives!
No offense, but you know little about the health insurance industry. As it stands, it's profits first, saving lives second.

 
Old 09-10-2009, 04:44 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Fleet View Post
Bush did not "lie." Accept it already.
Yes he did. Lies like a cheap used car salesman.....accept DAT
 
Old 09-10-2009, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Redford Township, MI
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America's current system has the best quality of care of any system in any developed country, and you actually call it the 'worst and dumbest'?

Health care isn't a legal issue. The federal government has no constitutional right to have a say in this issue. Why does everyone ignore this fact?

#1) US is #37 below Costa Rica and above Slovenia The World Health Organization's ranking of the world's health systems (As Stephen Colbert put it, "Suck it, Slovenia!" LOL)

#2) Interesting that in the Terry Schiavo case, health care WAS the government's business; quote from below article: "In this case, Republicans in Washington have mounted a hypocritical and dangerous assault on federalism, involving Congress and the President in an area where they have no Constitutional authority. Some acted believing that their religious views trump the 10th Amendment and others hoping (including putting in writing) that the issue can be used for political advantage.
Global Politician - Terri Schiavo and Political Principles: Republican Errors and Their Consequences

Republicans (and other politicians, to be sure) can always count on their constituents to have a very short memory and be led by the nose in the very direction they would have opposed a short time ago.

Hmph.
 
Old 09-10-2009, 05:23 PM
 
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This coming from a guy who lives in New Jersey
What does New Jersey have to do with anything?
 
Old 09-10-2009, 06:00 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Originally Posted by TristansMommy View Post
what's considered sub human.. are you refering to the poor.. those that don't work?

Because they are already funded by Medicaid.

What we're talking about here are working families..those not wealthy.. but not poor enough to get it for free.

And all they are asking is to be able to pay for their services at a cost that doesn't leave them a)homeless b) hungry or c) dead!

BTW.. I"m not saying the poor are subhuman..
No, Im not saying the poor are subhuman, I'm kind of surprised you would think that. I gave an example earlier on.
 
Old 09-10-2009, 06:05 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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What does New Jersey have to do with anything?
Don't pay any mind to him, her, it...Whatever they call themselves.
 
Old 09-10-2009, 06:11 PM
 
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I've found that the same people who consider paying taxes for social programs, healthcare, etc. (what they refer to as "welfare state") an affront, don't seem to mind paying taxes for warfare state programs like invading foreign countries and keeping troops stationed all over the world to fight other countries' wars. It seems like a strange attitude for anyone who considers themselves Christian.
It's because they are lying. They are using religion to try and justify the fact that they need the military to protect their "Christian Empire" just like they used it to justify slavery. They are phonies and frauds.
 
Old 09-10-2009, 06:19 PM
 
Location: OB
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I believe the American dream was not about property rights
Do not bastardize the American Dream. Our forefathers fled persecution & discrimination for the freedom to pursue Property, Wealth and Happiness w/o Gov't interference or prejudice. That is the American Dream; not some faux-utopian socialist paradise were leechers get a little of everyone elses.

Lets be straight, UHC is not for the .005% who have a pre-existing condition, it is to provide more welfare to the poor. Poor who did not take advantage of the opportunities the United States provides.
 
Old 09-10-2009, 06:29 PM
 
Location: California
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Do not bastardize the American Dream. Our forefathers fled persecution & discrimination for the freedom to pursue Property, Wealth and Happiness w/o Gov't interference or prejudice. That is the American Dream; not some faux-utopian socialist paradise were leechers get a little of everyone elses.

Lets be straight, UHC is not for the .005% who have a pre-existing condition, it is to provide more welfare to the poor. Poor who did not take advantage of the opportunities the United States provides.
UHC would actually be for everyone, whether rich or poor.
 
Old 09-10-2009, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Originally Posted by mossomo View Post
Do not bastardize the American Dream. Our forefathers fled persecution & discrimination for the freedom to pursue Property, Wealth and Happiness w/o Gov't interference or prejudice. That is the American Dream; not some faux-utopian socialist paradise were leechers get a little of everyone elses.

Lets be straight, UHC is not for the .005% who have a pre-existing condition, it is to provide more welfare to the poor. Poor who did not take advantage of the opportunities the United States provides.
Silly me, I thought it was for everyone.
You do realize most middle class people are one major illness away from bankruptcy? No one should have to declare bankruptcy because of an illness.
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