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Old 09-21-2009, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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I read you ... but ... what about medicaid???? Is medicaid going to be eliminated?
Sorry, I am not ignoring the rest of your post, but this is the issue - for me at least. There are many who are WORKING but are not being offered health insurance. Medicaid does not help those people. I've never been on Medicaid, to be honest, but I think there is an income requirement. To be a single individual who works but happens to not make a lot of money, Medicaid won't help you. I feel if you can't offer health insurance, then at least offer good enough wages to cover the high premiums that you have to pay trying to insure yourself. If you are the lucky one who doesn't have a "pre-existing condition". I know small businesses have it rough, but if people are complaining about government intervention, the private industry needs to step up. either that or up the income threshhold for Medicaid so that good, hard working people who don't make a lot of money have a decent health insurance plan. People walking around uninsured or neglecting conditions because they fear high premiums just isn't cool, IMO.

 
Old 09-21-2009, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Insurance company scare mailing investigated - U.S. business- msnbc.com

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The government is investigating a major insurance company for allegedly trying to scare seniors with a mailer warning they could lose important benefits under health care legislation in Congress.

Cost of surgery? Secret prices confound patients - Health care- msnbc.com

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Finding out how much a medical procedure costs is more difficult and mysterious than buying a new car. With a new car, there's a sticker price. With health care, there's no starting line for haggling.
 
Old 09-22-2009, 03:24 PM
 
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Government can fix health care – just look at Medicare and Medicaid.

Okay, they're broke, but look at Social Security.

Okay, it's broke, but look at the U.S. Post Office.

Okay, it's broke, but look at Amtrak.

Okay, it's broke, but look at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Okay, they're broke, but look at the budget.

Okay, it's $10.6 trillion in the red, but . . .
 
Old 09-23-2009, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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The Healthhcare industry is in dire need of reform, Prevention, treatment and payment for those parts. I don't think there is much dispute about the need, only the how side. However, there is another industry that is being left out of the discussion, the Big Food industry. The NY Times has an article about that at www.nytimes.com/2009/09/10/opinion/10pollan.html , perhaps recognition and action in this area would be of even greater value.
 
Old 09-23-2009, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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The Healthhcare industry is in dire need of reform, Prevention, treatment and payment for those parts. I don't think there is much dispute about the need, only the how side. However, there is another industry that is being left out of the discussion, the Big Food industry. The NY Times has an article about that at www.nytimes.com/2009/09/10/opinion/10pollan.html , perhaps recognition and action in this area would be of even greater value.
If New York wants a cradle-to-grave nanny state that tells them what they can and cannot eat, when they can and cannot sleep, and who they can associate with, how much they can earn, and when and where they can smoke, that is entirely up to New York voters. But keep that fascist socialist garbage out of my federal government.

Obviously New Yorkers have utterly no concept what it means to be "free."
 
Old 09-23-2009, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Health care reform that pleases liberals and conservatives - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20090922/cm_csm/yrothgeb - broken link)

Reading the article, could you get on board with something like that?
 
Old 09-24-2009, 03:17 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Health care reform that pleases liberals and conservatives - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20090922/cm_csm/yrothgeb - broken link)

Reading the article, could you get on board with something like that?
I could, but then again it may be too logical.
 
Old 09-24-2009, 10:09 AM
 
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Government can fix health care – just look at Medicare and Medicaid.

Okay, they're broke, but look at Social Security.

Okay, it's broke, but look at the U.S. Post Office.

Okay, it's broke, but look at Amtrak.

Okay, it's broke, but look at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Okay, they're broke, but look at the budget.

Okay, it's $10.6 trillion in the red, but . . .

Don't forget the Federal Reserve, been running on empty for years and giving more worthless money to the aforementioned...
 
Old 09-24-2009, 01:26 PM
 
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