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Old 08-10-2009, 02:07 PM
 
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How about just trying out some common decency and compassion for a change?
Enabling behaviors that are detrimental to people is far form being decent.
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Old 08-10-2009, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Then how do you explain this?


African Immigrants exceed in ED. , Political Blog, Conservative Bloggers, Republican Blogspot, Political Blogs




What Africa was like before colonialism:

Too many people misunderstand pre-colonial Africa as being a backward time for Africa.

This should clear that up:

The Yoruba People

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The Mali Empire

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The Kongo Kingdom

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The Benin Kingdom

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Nok Culture

Sub-Saharan Africa's earliest civilization?

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Kanem-Bornu Empire

Kanem Bornu - The Empire by the Lake (http://www.clickafrique.com/Magazine/ST010/CP0000000009.aspx - broken link)
And one of the worlds greatest living mathematicians is Nigerian. So? Just because one man in a nation has an IQ of around 170 doesn't mean the average of his countrymen are morons sporting an IQ of 67.

I never said all of them were morons just the majority are.

Ah yes, the great Kingdom of Mali, one of the greatest traders in slavery that ever existed. The advancement in writing rivaling Shakespeare and Chaucer, the literature, the great architectural advancements rivaling the sistine chapel not to mention the advancements to medicine and science. I stand in awe of the greatness of great mud piles they left behind in Timbuktu.



Wow, just so impressive.
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Old 08-10-2009, 02:30 PM
 
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Like the Egyptoids with their big triangles... YEA GUESS WHAT BIG WHOOP. I CAN MAKE A TRIANGLE TOO, with your face.
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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Hey my friends:

I just read them all. Out of about 50 posts I think I read just one post saying the USA should feed them. That would be a communist view but who cares. The point is WE THE PEASANTS DO NOT WANT TO GIVE AWAY OUR MONEY. It's ours and we did not give this govt permission to give it away.

We need that money here. This country is in a deep deep depression with millions upon millions of Americans without work and little hope of finding any. Why are we giving away our money to people who hate our guts with every cell in their starving bodies?

I like the one answer best that said not to populate land that can not sustain humans. Yes exactly. And when they find land to settle that can sustain life then we show them how to plant and irrigate the lands to grow their own food rather then just keep giving them food.

I cant stand the way this govt gives away our money to any 7th world country who cries they are hungry. We are hungry too, right here in America.
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:25 PM
 
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both, countries who colonized and left african countries destabalized in the ruin should also help
that would be UK, portugal, netherlands, etc. not the US.
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Old 08-10-2009, 03:35 PM
 
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Who should be responsible for promoting policies that makes it easier for Africans to feed themselves? The U.S or African governments?
North American and European government are largely responsible for holding back developing agricultural societies due to the artificial prices we pay for most fresh food items in our local supermarkets. The artificially low price for commodities come from western farm subsidies that make agriculture not practical for anything other than subsistence farming. There is no way that African governments can match the subsidies from North America and Europe. Combine this with food aid (rather than developmental aid) and you end up reducing the price of staples even further. Artificially low local food prices means that anything other than cash crops (i.e. coffee) cannot be grown for a profit. Since there are so few cash crops that don't suffer subsidy issues, the increased competition makes agriculture a tough business in Africa. If you look at the world's developed nations now, you have to remember that 100-odd years ago it was agriculture that drove the growth towards industrialization. That tool isn't available in Africa in a meaningful way.
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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This land redistribution program was a primary cause of Zimbabwe’s plummet to economic ruin.

Land redistribution isn't the primary cause of the collapse of Zimbabwe. There are many examples of sucessful land redistribution or Africanization programs in places like Ghana, Senegal, Kenya, Tanzania and Malawi. South Africa is in the throws of a much larger Africanization program of sub-saharan Africa's most industrialized developed nation. What happened in Zimbabwe like many former British colonies is Majority Rule was accompanied by white flight. Many whites could not tolerate blacks in power and over half of Zimbabwe's whites simply left and abandoned their property. Some stayed but became Mugabe's targets when they refused to sell some of the land to blacks. My point wasn't Mugabe's failings but the legacy of white racism and whites acting as a Master Race. Hate is a pernicious thing. Not every one has a soul of a Nelson Mandella who spent over 30 years in the Apartheid Regime's prisons in South Africa. Mandella led his new nation to a soft landing, Mugabe flew is nation into the ground.
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Old 08-10-2009, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Who should feed Africa?

Africa.
Agreed.
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Old 08-10-2009, 10:48 PM
 
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Ah yes, the great Kingdom of Mali, one of the greatest traders in slavery that ever existed. The advancement in writing rivaling Shakespeare and Chaucer, the literature, the great architectural advancements rivaling the sistine chapel not to mention the advancements to medicine and science. I stand in awe of the greatness of great mud piles they left behind in Timbuktu.



Wow, just so impressive.
Well you should read up on the Ghana,Mali and Songhay empires.



The Songhay Empire: The Golden Age of Timbuktu

Scholars from all over the Islamic world came to the University of Sankore (as well as the city's over 180 madersas) where courses as varied as theology, Islamic law, rhetoric, and literature were taught. The university was housed in the Sankore Mosque built with a remarkably large pyramidal mihrab (http://www.history.com/classroom/unesco/timbuktu/vocabulary.html#mihrab - broken link) in the declining years of the Mali Empire. The university, one of the first in Africa, became so famous that scholars came to it from all over the Muslim world...


History Channel
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Old 08-10-2009, 10:51 PM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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Who Should Feed Africa?

um ... Africa? ...
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