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The working assumption of conservative economists is that people are ONLY motivated by money - hence why CEO and upper officers of the corporation have to be paid large amounts to motivate them to do the best job possible for the corporation (although why that doesn't apply to lower-ranked employees, I have no idea).
But if you actually ask a doctor - particularly a GP or family practice doctor, two of the lowest-paid categories of doctors - why they went into medicine, and why they chose their specialties, money was not the big thing. There is concern over money, of course - the average doctor now graduates over $100,000 in debt, which is likely one of the pushes to go into a higher-paying specialty.
i work for a company that provides a medical service, and what medicare pays us for that service is significantly more than what we, or any other local provider of that service charges private people in order to make a profit.
Are you saying that for physicians ( which is the topic) that also holds true?
That Medicare pays better than private ?
Are you saying that for physicians ( which is the topic) that also holds true?
That Medicare pays better than private ?
i don't know, it probably varies from procedure to procedure. for the procedure we do, yes. medicare fee schedules don't vary based on provider type. but i do know that what medicare pays for any service is utterly unrelated to what insurance companies charge customers for insurance.
this sentence:
"Then private insurance companies must react to the extremely low pay set up by medicare and must raise prices on private individuals to make up for the loss that the government causes."
makes absolutely no sense. it's saying doctors get paid less by medicare therefore insurance companies (who also pay the doctors) must charge more. i wouldn't trust the person who wrote that's analysis of pretty much anything, since they don't seem to understand the subject or even basic logic or economics.
But...but...but...I thought the "talking points" of the Right stated that "only a small percentage of people really don't have permanent health insurance, the rest have only 'temporary' lost it."
Are you admitting NOW that there are lots and lots of people without health insurance?
Ken
Yes - there are people who voluntarily don't want it. Of those, some are self-insured.
By the way, emotional histrionics indicate irrationality.
i don't know, it probably varies from procedure to procedure. for the procedure we do, yes. medicare fee schedules don't vary based on provider type. but i do know that what medicare pays for any service is utterly unrelated to what insurance companies charge customers for insurance.
this sentence:
"Then private insurance companies must react to the extremely low pay set up by medicare and must raise prices on private individuals to make up for the loss that the government causes."
makes absolutely no sense. it's saying doctors get paid less by medicare therefore insurance companies (who also pay the doctors) must charge more. i wouldn't trust the person who wrote that's analysis of pretty much anything, since they don't seem to understand the subject or even basic logic or economics.
Well then, by golly, you have right here today dispelled the claims of many many articles and people and doctors that they need to charge more to others in order to cover the inadequate payments from Medicare!
It also makes one question why our efficient government would be paying more than privates are paying
I don't think there will be a shortage of physicians. However, what will occur is you will have more physicians refusing to take Obamacare insurance much like many physicians refuse to treat Medicaid patients therefore the effect will essentially be the same. It doesn't matter if you have enough physicians if they refuse to see you.
what you quoted didn't say doctors said they need to charge more.
it said that insurers need to charge more.
if you want to make an argument, you should probably cite a source that actually makes the same claim you are making. preferably written by someone who understands the difference between providers and insurers.
Why would you be sarcastic about people choosing to self-insure, or choosing to prioritize other things (cell phone, cable TV, Starbucks, etc.) over health insurance premiums?
what you quoted didn't say doctors said they need to charge more.
it said that insurers need to charge more.
if you want to make an argument, you should probably cite a source that actually makes the same claim you are making. preferably written by someone who understands the difference between providers and insurers.
I just went and re-read it. You're right. It does says that.That makes no sense
I was seeing what it should have said rather than what it does say.
.....unless I'm reading it wrong again.
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