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Old 08-12-2009, 10:48 PM
 
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Isn't withholding medical care from a person who will die without medical care considered passive euthanasia?

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Old 08-12-2009, 10:53 PM
 
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Isn't withholding medical care from a person who will die without medical care considered passive euthanasia?
Perhaps but how do you propose we end this practice by the insurance companies
 
Old 08-12-2009, 10:53 PM
 
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Isn't that what we get from the current health insurance model?
 
Old 08-12-2009, 10:58 PM
 
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Perhaps but how do you propose we end this practice by the insurance companies
Insurance companies do not have the power to deny medically necessary care to a covered member. I am not referring to pre existing clauses. I do not support pre existing clauses and the insurance industry needs to step up to the plate on this issue. The proposed legislation will allow a government panel to base care decisions upon a patient's age and expected longevity. This is passive euthanasia.
 
Old 08-12-2009, 11:00 PM
 
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Isn't withholding medical care from a person who will die without medical care considered passive euthanasia?
Well, let's see.

You and your 20 years of experience...oh, my bad...30 years of experience as a coder/office manager should have already filled you in on that reality.

In cases of terminal illness/end-stage disease, imminent death, and brain death, certainly YOU must have read a chart or two where palliative care was instituted.

Am I right?

In those instances, tell us all how many of the decisions for instituting palliation were directed SOLELY by an insurance company rather than the patient, the patient's legal representative, or the physician(s) working in tandem.

I'm waiting.
 
Old 08-12-2009, 11:02 PM
 
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Originally Posted by pommysmommy View Post
Insurance companies do not have the power to deny medically necessary care to a covered member. I am not referring to pre existing clauses. I do not support pre existing clauses and the insurance industry needs to step up to the plate on this issue. The proposed legislation will allow a government panel to base care decisions upon a patient's age and expected longevity. This is passive euthanasia.
How you can call yourself a healthcare "professional" defies all reason.

Show us all the EXACT quote from the proposed HR bill that states this to be the case.

Do you cherry-pick and misinterpret to this degree in your work?
 
Old 08-12-2009, 11:03 PM
 
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Isn't withholding medical care from a person who will die without medical care considered passive euthanasia?
You might be on to something... Maybe you could ask United Health Care the same question...
 
Old 08-12-2009, 11:05 PM
 
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Originally Posted by pommysmommy View Post
Insurance companies do not have the power to deny medically necessary care to a covered member. I am not referring to pre existing clauses. I do not support pre existing clauses and the insurance industry needs to step up to the plate on this issue. The proposed legislation will allow a government panel to base care decisions upon a patient's age and expected longevity. This is passive euthanasia.
"Insurance companies do not have the power to deny medically necessary care to a covered member."

Really? Gosh, that's news to me.
 
Old 08-12-2009, 11:05 PM
 
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Insurance companies do not have the power to deny medically necessary care to a covered member. I am not referring to pre existing clauses. I do not support pre existing clauses and the insurance industry needs to step up to the plate on this issue.
*LOL* Oh, yeah insurance companies just write blank checks and sanction any treatment.

"But instead of having doctors working to remove her brain tumors on the day the surgery was scheduled, she sat in a San Francisco hotel room. Why? Because at the last minute, her insurance company, Blue Shield, decided it wasn't going to pay for the treatment her doctors at UCSF Medical Center had recommended."
http://cbs5.com/local/cancer.treatment.denied.2.1007394.html (broken link)

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The proposed legislation will allow a government panel to base care decisions upon a patient's age and expected longevity. This is passive euthanasia.
Can you provide the language from the health care bill, the actual health care bill, where this is stated.
 
Old 08-12-2009, 11:08 PM
 
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How typical of the left, when you can't attack the message you attack the messenger. I am honored.
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