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And besides, protesting wars seems sort of logical, protesting health care seems... well, stupid.
Well if you twist it so far from reality...sure. Nothing like taking something and boiling it down to a sound bite.
Sounds simple...who could support a war? Killing is mean...right? The problem is that it's never that simple. Protesting a war just for the sake of protesting, or to make a political statement and fit in with your crowd and because someone told you to protest isn't admirable. It's naive. If you understand the impact to our nation and the world, and the security and foreign policy issues and still feel you need to protest, then I can at least respect you for standing up for your principles.
Healthcare is one of those principled issues to many people. It sounds pretty simple...who could not support healthcare? Making sick people better is nice...right? The problem is that it's not that simple. Issues such as cost and the specifics, as well as important left out issues such as tort reform are all things that an educated public needs to be aware of and understand. People who are protesting aren't protesting "healthcare" but rather the government run system and tax and spend plan being proposed and rushed through Congress. Principled people take issue with the plan and are expressing themselves.
But in all honesty, anti war demonstrators got arrested at town hall meetings. I'll be the first to admit, I think there are a lot of questions concerning the healthcare bill, I think people are scared, but the lunatics are making it unable for us to have a serious debate.
A protest and a town hall meeting are two entirely different venues. And besides, protesting wars seems sort of logical, protesting health care seems... well, stupid.
I'll be the first to admit, I think there are a lot of questions concerning the healthcare bill, I think people are scared, but the lunatics are making it unable for us to have a serious debate.
There is a wacko, lunatic fringe that appears any time something this political and this important is being discussed. Look at the code pink and Cindy Sheehans of the world who protested the war. Look at the moveon.org types. They are extremists on the left.
Unfortunately, in this debate you have some extremists on both sides as well. You have some people who don't know how to make their opinion known in a civil manner. You also have politicians with a deaf ear, who are hell bent on passing this thing no matter what the American people say or do. I think that frustration leads to the extremism, although doing things like painting a swastika is still wrong and needs to be condemned.
While I understand it's a double standard logically, there is still something very different (IN MY HEAD) about protesting a war (an illegal war) and protesting expanding healthcare coverage. Maybe my brain is wired differently. But the lunatic fringe left opposed an illegal war, I think that seems reasonable. The lunatic fringe right is acting as if we are turning into Russia. And besides, the lunatic fringe has their facts wrong.... example: curly haired girl Katy Abram.
But in all honesty, anti war demonstrators got arrested at town hall meetings. I'll be the first to admit, I think there are a lot of questions concerning the healthcare bill, I think people are scared, but the lunatics are making it unable for us to have a serious debate.
See I dont think its just about the healthcare bill. I think there is more to it and people are using the healthcare bill as the icing on the cake
I think Americans are feed up. I believe many are finally reaching the breaking point of our elected officals not listening to us and talking to us like they are is only making matters worse.
Look at the comments out of democrats mouths lately and their comments back then when it was against Bush
Come on put the country before a political party.
I think people are also realizing what big gov is about and want their small gov back. Democrats might not want to admit this but people dont want to bust their butts working to only have the gov take it from them. Its a punishment for working hard
While I understand it's a double standard logically, there is still something very different (IN MY HEAD) about protesting a war (an illegal war) and protesting expanding healthcare coverage. Maybe my brain is wired differently. But the lunatic fringe left opposed an illegal war, I think that seems reasonable. The lunatic fringe right is acting as if we are turning into Russia. And besides, the lunatic fringe has their facts wrong.... example: curly haired girl Katy Abram.
lmbo@ illegal war so its still illegal war which makes Obama a war criminal also right
No there is no different we have the right to protest if you dont agree with the protest thats your problem but that doesnt take away someone elses right to protest
I think Americans are feed up. I believe many are finally reached the breaking point of our elected officals not listening to us and talking to us like they are is only making matters worse.
I hope that's true. I think some number of people have reached their breaking point and regret not being more focused during the last election.
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Come on put the country before a political party.
Unfortunately not going to happen as long as people continue to send the same incumbents back to DC, despite the the crap they shove down our throats.
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Democrats might not want to admit this but people dont want to bust their butts working to only have the gov take it from them. Its a punishment for working hard
Nah...people who want to keep more of what they earn instead of sending it to DC to be wasted are just those "selfish, greedy" people who don't care about anyone but themselves. How dare they not want to provide healthcare for illegal aliens and the poor.
protesting wars seems sort of logical, protesting health care seems... well, stupid.
Oh. My. God.
You didn't really just say that, did you?
So protesting war is ok (I'm ok with that, too), but protesting the largest spending venture the federal government has ever tried to take on - and that may not even be Constitutional - in the middle of the worst economic situation in 80 years somehow is not ok?!?!
If you didnt notice Pelosi was having a townhall meeting when she said that and it happened. You didnt watch the video did you
There was a protest at her townhall meeting , Watch the video
I watched the video. What I saw was a chopped up editing job with no continuity and no way to follow what came first, second, third, or was totally unrelated. I saw and heard a reference to Franklin Roosevelt as a "disruptor", which she defined as "people who make change".
I didn't hear her call for angry mobs to invade other representatives' town hall meetings.
I saw her say we shouldn't question each other's patriotism when we're having a debate.
Then I saw the hatchet job editor try to equate her admiration of Franklin Roosevelt being a "disruptor", to her statement that the mobs who are disrupting town halls by drowning OUT debate, as if there was anything remotely similar about the use of the term "disruptor" in those two very different contexts.
Way to misrepresent, twist and distort to try to make your enemy look foolish. Whoever created that, and whoever doesn't view it honestly, ought to be ashamed of themselves. Sadly, they won't be.
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