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So you are saying what the officer did was right? You believe that this is the way a Police Officer should be trained? I don't know if you are a Police Officer, and God I hope you are not, but I have family members who are Police Officers and this is not what they are trained to do.
So what are they trained to do when someone resists arrest? Tango with them? Tell them "ah, nevermind"? Wait for them to do what they were told to do all day? Wait for them to pull out a weapon and shoot/kill them?
If an officer, within his lawful authority, tells you to do something, you do it. If you don't feel like it, well too bad, deal with the inevitable consequences. If you want to defy a lawful order, as far as I'm concerned, you've earned yourself a 50,000 volt joyride and you'll get no sympathy from me.
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Originally Posted by hotair2
Well if the officer could not gain physical control over the woman, if needed, he is a panzy and should not even be a police officer, and if he needed some more support he should of called for more police officers. Maybe there would have been one among them with an IQ above moron.
He did gain physical control over her. That's what the taser was for.
Well if the officer could not gain physical control over the woman, if needed, he is a panzy and should not even be a police officer, and if he needed some more support he should of called for more police officers. Maybe there would have been one among them with an IQ above moron.
If this is what he was trained to do, then why did his own department take him off street duty? I don't think you know what you are talking about?
First of all, your sexism has no place in this conversation.
The simple fact is that if verbal directives do not subdue a suspect, they are within their authority to implement more persuasive measures.
I'm not defending his particular actions or the extent of them, but the overall premise of your accusations are unfounded in terms of the authority of officers in such situations.
So what are they trained to do when someone resists arrest? Tango with them? Tell them "ah, nevermind"? Wait for them to do what they were told to do all day? Wait for them to pull out a weapon and shoot/kill them?
If an officer, within his lawful authority, tells you to do something, you do it. If you don't feel like it, well too bad, deal with the inevitable consequences. If you want to defy a lawful order, as far as I'm concerned, you've earned yourself a 50,000 volt joyride and you'll get no sympathy from me.
Did you read the article? Why was she under arrest? He told her to get back in the car and she did and then he told her to get out of the car to arrest her. Why was she being arrested? At best she went over the speed limit by 5 mph. That is not enough to be arrested. He got his panties in a wad because she questioned him...too bad. IF you can't deal with that then you should not be a police officer. You still did not answer my question, if he was doing what he was supposed to be doing why did they take him off of duty?
Did you read the article? Why was she under arrest? He told her to get back in the car and she did and then he told her to get out of the car to arrest her. Why was she being arrested? At best she went over the speed limit by 5 mph. That is not enough to be arrested. He got his panties in a wad because she questioned him...too bad. IF you can't deal with that then you should not be a police officer. You still did not answer my question, if he was doing what he was supposed to be doing why did they take him off of duty?
Did you listen to her own words? She admits that when he told her to get back in the car, she stood there asking questions instead. She admits that when he asked her to get out of the car, she pleaded with him "not to do this" instead of getting out of the car. You know what repeated refusal to obey a cop's orders earns you? A tune-up. She asked for it, she got it, case closed. As for why they took him off duty, it's standard procedure during an internal investigation to sooth all the indignant whiners and criers out there who seem to think we're entitled to disobey an officer's orders, after which he'll probably be put back on the force without any sanction.
First of all, your sexism has no place in this conversation.
The simple fact is that if verbal directives do not subdue a suspect, they are within their authority to implement more persuasive measures.
I'm not defending his particular actions or the extent of them, but the overall premise of your accusations are unfounded in terms of the authority of officers in such situations.
Sexism, where did you get that. If you will read, I said "The woman" not a woman. If you look at the video, he is much larger than THE WOMAN he was in no danger and I would assume based on the relative size of both people that he could gain physical control. Stay on point please. This is not about sexism or racism don't try to make it so.
Go to China and argue with an officer some day, or pretty much anywhere else outside the western industrialized world for that matter. My guess is you'll get a real quick lesson in how different civilian-police interaction is.
Go to China and argue with an officer some day, or pretty much anywhere else outside the western industrialized world for that matter. My guess is you'll get a real quick lesson in how different civilian-police interaction is.
I have been outside of the country. You mean if you argue, they will tazer you, beat on you with night sticks, kick you when you are already subdued, shoot you in the back when you are already subdued, tazer you repeatedly when you are already subdued. Dude this is already happening in our own country. Where have you been. If I wanted to live in a dictatorship, I would move there.
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