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08-18-2009, 12:00 PM
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[...]We now know that there were two men who openly carried assault rifles — CNN reports they were AR-15s — outside the Veterans of Foreign Wars hall in Phoenix where President Obama spoke yesterday. According to The Associated Press, about eight more people were carrying other types of guns.
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“Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme was released from prison this week, after 34 years in prison. The gun she pointed at President Ford had no bullet in the firing chamber — unlike Sarah Jane Moore, she never even pulled the trigger or fired. Presumably, these gun nuts showing up for the health care events have their weapons actually loaded.”
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So when does carrying a loaded weapon to a president’s speaking event become a threat? Police officers reportedly kept an eye on the two guys with the assault rifles, but what about the other eight who just carried handguns? How many officers have to be tied up watching individuals who come to see the president fully armed? Does the right to bear arms at some point give way to the ability of police and Secret Service to reasonably protect the president?
The Washington Independent » When Does Carrying a Loaded Weapon to a Presidential Rally Become a Threat?
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08-18-2009, 12:02 PM
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There were no arrests made and no laws broken - these guys were indeed exercising thier rights to carry arms. I own many guns and carry in public on occasion myself.
That being said, the 9 pages of differing opinions on this thread show that the men may not have used their best judgment here. I would not have brought one of my guns to this kind of event, and this kind of attention is not good if the gun community wants to be taken seriously. So far, this "protest" has brought nothing but bad press for the gun community and has painted us to be a bunch of macho meatheads.
These guys may have been exercising their right to bear arms, but they were not exercising thier best judgement.
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08-18-2009, 12:09 PM
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Hypothetically speaking: What if, WHAT IF one of those gun toting fools would have been crazy enough to shoot one of those weapons? The SS or police would have been forced to take him out, the guy is in the middle of a crowd, what are the chances of some innocent bystander taking a bullet instead of the intended target? IMO the chances of that happening would be HUGE.
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08-18-2009, 12:33 PM
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Democrat History of Violence Against Americans
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President Clinton came to Philadelphia for a fundraiser October 2, 1998. Because he was to visit several places in the same general area both his supporters and detractors were spread throughout a several block radius for most of the event.
The assault on Don and Teri Adams occurred just minutes after arriving in front of city hall where they encountered 150 Teamsters.
Source: Images from the Oct. 2, 1998 Teamsters Attack on Don Adams
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Eye Witness to St. Louis Scuffle: 'SEIU Representative Punched Him In the Face.'
I just got off the phone with David Brown, a friend of Gladney's who was an eye-witness to the event. A St. Louis attorney, he plans to represent Gladney in civil action against the SEIU members he claims assaulted him. Brown confirms that the video above is of the fight in question. Brown has also written a letter recounting the incident, reprinted at Hot Air.
"There's three independent witnesses that don't know Ken at all that are in the police report. I'm pretty sure that they corroborate each other's stories," Brown said.
This is his description of the incident:"He was handing out flags to anybody who wanted them...The SEIU guy came up to him and said, "Why is an n-word like you handing out these flags?"
"Kenneth didn't say anything to the guy. Before Kenneth could even say anything or act in any way shape or form, the SEIU representative punched him in the face."
"He went to the ground. Subsequently, two other SEIU representatives or members, however you want to say it, jumped on top of him, yelled racial epithets at him...kicked him, punched him."
Brown said Gladney told him he was also kicked by a woman, but Brown didn't witness that part. Gladney then went to the hospital, Brown said.
"He sustained some injuries to his back, some bruising," he said.
Source: The Weekly Standard
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These are just two examples of liberal violence against law-abiding Americans exercising their constitutionally protected rights. More examples of liberal violence can be found under each and every Democrat administration for the last 100+ years. Violence against Americans is a Democrat trademark. And liberals have to wonder why protesters are showing up to these protests armed?
Thankfully, we live in a nation where law-abiding citizens are able to defend their right to peacefully assemble and protest against their government. As long as the 2nd Amendment exists, the Obama sycophants and their Union thugs will not be able to use their violent Gestapo tactics.
It is an object lesson to every freedom loving American - If you intend to peacefully protest at a Democrat townhall meeting or any Democrat sponsored event, make certain you attend armed. 
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08-18-2009, 12:38 PM
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These are just two examples of liberal violence against law-abiding Americans exercising their constitutionally protected rights. More examples of liberal violence can be found under each and every Democrat administration for the last 100+ years. Violence against Americans is a Democrat trademark. And liberals have to wonder why protesters are showing up to these protests armed?
Thankfully, we live in a nation where law-abiding citizens are able to defend their right to peacefully assemble and protest against their government. As long as the 2nd Amendment exists, the Obama sycophants and their Union thugs will not be able to use their violent Gestapo tactics.
It is an object lesson to every freedom loving American - If you intend to peacefully protest at a Democrat townhall meeting or any Democrat sponsored event, make certain you attend armed. 
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Funny.
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08-18-2009, 12:54 PM
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Switzerland has to have them - some militia requirement.
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They get to keep them and can still walk around the grocery store with it, unloaded of course. Just like that "Uncle Tom" 
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08-18-2009, 12:59 PM
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Hypothetically speaking: What if, WHAT IF one of those gun toting fools would have been crazy enough to shoot one of those weapons? The SS or police would have been forced to take him out, the guy is in the middle of a crowd, what are the chances of some innocent bystander taking a bullet instead of the intended target? IMO the chances of that happening would be HUGE.
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You're just itching for that ^ to happen, aren't you?
Didn't you even read the news report? These guys were not even inside the building the president was in. Obviously SS is not stupid enough to have anybody with a gun trolling around within range of the president. They make everybody go thru a metal detector. At least they did when I saw President Bush in 04.
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08-18-2009, 01:04 PM
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You're just itching for that ^ to happen, aren't you?
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It's not my mind that formulated your sick thought....
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08-18-2009, 01:06 PM
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It's not my mind that formulated your sick thought....
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Meh, this is the same game neo-cons played with pro-peace folks, and you're just relishing the idea of being able to play this "you're sick for implying" game because "your team" is in the captain's chair.
Obama = Bush in more ways than you can shake a stick at.
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08-18-2009, 01:09 PM
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Meh, this is the same game neo-cons played with pro-peace folks, and you're just relishing the idea of being able to play this "you're sick for implying" game because "your team" is in the captain's chair.
Obama = Bush in more ways than you can shake a stick at.
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Care to reply to the hypothetical situation I mentioned without resorting to smarmy replies like the previous poster did?
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