What cities are most conservative? (Congress, Denver, vote, guns)

[boiseguy]

I have found that most liberal area's actually do not promote chain stores even if they are high priced and trendy. Liberal places tend to foster local retailers, and coffee shops rather than corporate starbucks....I don't know about the whole roads thing.... I think its more a matter of liberal places have more public transportation options vs road systems for endless miles of car traffic... having shotty anything is a mismanagement of money, what determines liberal or conservative is how a place chooses to spend money and what is most important. Again it is a matter of lifestyle and choice..... Liberal places tend to have higher priced homes and taxes, but you also don't have the added cost of car payments, gas, and insurance...thats just an example of course...

[UB50]

Originally Posted by spunky1

Wow, I guess I should change political parties based on your assessment.
I didn't know that people that walk/bike, drink Starbucks, shop high end, and wear fashionable shoes were liberal. I am really enlightened and think I had better switch my political affiliation!

I'm so glad I enlightened you.

Next, you'll be switching over to Buddhism.

[UB50]

Originally Posted by ontheroad

but people drive, and don't walk because of a lack of sidewalks

I forgot about the lack of sidewalks. Sidewalks cost money and you usually only see them in old conservative towns, not new conservative suburbs (where no one wants to spend money on sidewalks).

[UB50]

Originally Posted by NewToCA

The great thing about the internet, it entertains and informs folks. Now you have a new view of political philosophies! Of course, out here in California the road generally stink, so I guess we are conservative. However, we have Starbucks on practically every corner, so I guess we are liberally conservative.

Or conservatively liberal.

(Or maybe we're just a whole bunch of moderates? )

[UB50]

Originally Posted by boiseguy

I have found that most liberal area's actually do not promote chain stores even if they are high priced and trendy. Liberal places tend to foster local retailers, and coffee shops rather than corporate starbucks....

You are right about this. I don't think the "high priced and trendy" matters as much as the "helping the independents exist" mindset in liberal areas. Unfortunately, if the independents don't get customers, they will cease to exist, which has been the case in numerous cities/towns across the heartland. So, liberal areas tend to patronize the smaller, local retailers and shops. (It also helps to spread the money around a little bit better.)

The reason I mention Starbucks is because I see a lot of people in small towns or smaller cities who seem to think Starbucks = Culture. (Pretty soon it will be Pinkberry = Culture, but I am digressing.)

What's funny about that to me is that I see more Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf places coming in around here. I've always liked the Coffee Bean better because their coffee isn't as strong or as bitter as Starbucks. We actually went to one little renovated downtown area in a town near us AND IT DID NOT HAVE A STARBUCKS!! But it had a Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf... It kind of made me laugh. I guess the town is rebelling.

[NCN]

Originally Posted by tjohnsn

I am constantly amazed at how many people think that it's GREAT to be a conservative. They actually brag about it sometimes.... wear it like a badge of honor or something. They should be ashamed of themselves, of backing the Republican criminals who are in politics just to line their selfish pockets and serve the rich. Shame on conservatives and the religious dumb dumbs who embrace their "conservative" credentials. SHAME.

Anyway, I think GEORGIA has got to be near the top of the Conservative list. So, if you want to live where the majority of people love going to church, think that every home should be full of guns, want to save every fetus - but kill every criminal, think that churches should receive federal funding for their programs and REALLY think that the designers of the Constitution were Fundimentalist Calvanistic Christians then you'd be RIGHT AT HOME IN GEORGIA (just pick a small town).

Isn't it amazing how far those English prisoners have come. Must be a good place to bring about such change. Sounds like a good place to live!

[doc1]

I think if you are looking for conservative places to live, you need to look for the following:

Poor roads (paying for good roads is a form of socialism)

like NJ?

Lots of churches (Conservatives love their churches)

Like NJ?

Wal-mart (At least one if not more)

We (NJ) have plenty of WMarts, Sam's Clubs etc.

Most people driving rather than walking (Only liberals walk)

No shortage of driving in NJ

Women's shoe stores specializing in "Function, not Fashion"

Can't see the traditional, conservative, little woman swooning over a Birkenstock sale

[Floridabound09]

People stop making it out like every conservative is a freak Christain. They are not.
Besides you dont see conservative dig into the lib baptist churches do you?
I am very Conservative and Christain and do not even come close to being like some of you describe.
Whatever you libs are trying to do it is not working, you have figured out a way to put everyone who is NOT liberal into a religous freak group and that we are not.

If anything the libs need "alittle" church in their system to teach them some moral values.............................

[boiseguy]

Originally Posted by Floridabound09

People stop making it out like every conservative is a freak Christain. They are not.
Besides you dont see conservative dig into the lib baptist churches do you?
I am very Conservative and Christain and do not even come close to being like some of you describe.
Whatever you libs are trying to do it is not working, you have figured out a way to put everyone who is NOT liberal into a religous freak group and that we are not.

If anything the libs need "alittle" church in their system to teach them some moral values.............................

church doesn't instill morals and values... but guidelines and codes of conduct to get to heaven... Many church goers are not practicing morals to do good unto others but in mere hopes of going to heaven... Morals come from many places.. and church is not the only place to recieve good moral values... dealing with people day in and day along with their problems and trials and actually caring teaches you good moral values without a jesus stamp on it... I don't agree with the posts made in relation to conservative vs. liberal area's and you're right not everyone who is conservative is a religious nut job... its a point of view... take it or leave it I guess, but I think there is a lot of anger from liberal points of view because they see conservatives as limiting things for everyone, when allowing something doesn't mean everyone has to go do it... it just allows it.... so someone who wishes to be conservative can remain so... even if laws become more liberal.. whereas the other way around.. everyone must submit... dunno if that makes sense?

[saganista]

Originally Posted by boiseguy

church doesn't instill morals and values... but guidelines and codes of conduct to get to heaven... Many church goers are not practicing morals to do good unto others but in mere hopes of going to heaven... Morals come from many places.. and church is not the only place to recieve good moral values...

In one analysis, morality is derived from empathy, and immorality from its opposite, apathy. One does not need any church or any list to understand that things such as lying or stealing or killing exist as degrees of immorality, since they progressively retreat away from empathy and advance toward apathy. The same scale can be observed in politics, particularly perhaps with regard to social issues, but more broadly also. And almost universally, it is the more empathetic principles and policies that are associated with liberals, and the more apathetic principles and policies that are associated with conservatives (particularly neo-conservatives). It can be seen over broad swaths of issues. Policies toward drug addicts, toward the poor, toward criminals, toward gays, toward immigrants...in each of these cases and many more, the more empathetic approach will be more closely identified with liberals and the more apathetic approach will be more closely identified with conservatives. To a large degree, it might be argued, the widespread sense of national dissatisfaction over the current state of our country may derive from our felt, but not often expressed, sense that indeed our national behavior over these past seven years has been immoral. Rather than being a beacon, we have been a thug, and that insults our commonly held sense of national identification and purpose. We have been so poorly represented in these years, even to ourselves. We need to turn things around. As a nation, and hence, as individuals. It isn't known yet whether we can pull that off...