What cities are most conservative? (wages, cost, dollars, abuse)

[StillwaterTownie]

Originally Posted by citigirl

Colorado Springs is conservative!!!!????

That settles it. My daughter was talking about wanting to move to Colorado Springs. I am calling her today to tell her I will give her the money to move.

Warn her Colorado Springs certainly has a highly liberal view of the mountains to the west, especially Pikes Peak.

[jufrbo]

Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie

I think Georgia's neighbor to the west, Alabama, is even worse at being conservative and too right Christian while at the same time having a lower standard of living than Georgia. That's an important thing to realize about these conservative states. They always come with a standard of living that's lower than the liberal states, such as Minnesota. If it was true that being conservative was a good political policy, then conservative states would be a lot better places to live in than they are now.

One of the most amazing things about liberal states over the religious conservative states is that they seem to take Christian principles like the Ten Commandments more seriously. And so in liberal states the murder rate is lower, as well as theft. The divorce rate is lower. For instance, Massachusetts has one of the nation's lowest divorce rates. Unwed teen births are also lower in liberal states. This is why no way do I want to become a conservative. It would be too great of a shame.

Ahhh, Detroit Mi, Flint Mi, New Jersey, DC, What wonderful liberal places, what a high standard of life they enjoy.

Northern Utah, Orange County, Colorado, these are horrible, let me tell you horribly depressed aplaces.

Maybe happiness is defined as half of you pay check being taken to support Johnny Crackpipe.

[spunky1]

Originally Posted by JustinFromBoise

Ahhh, Detroit Mi, Flint Mi, New Jersey, DC, What wonderful liberal places, what a high standard of life they enjoy.

I hear Baltimore is nice! And also Cleveland, Gary Indiana, and Philly! All bastions of liberal thought.

[boiseguy]

Originally Posted by JustinFromBoise

Ahhh, Detroit Mi, Flint Mi, New Jersey, DC, What wonderful liberal places, what a high standard of life they enjoy.

Northern Utah, Orange County, Colorado, these are horrible, let me tell you horribly depressed aplaces.

Maybe happiness is defined as half of you pay check being taken to support Johnny Crackpipe.

well, I moved to idaho from seattle, and I pay much more income tax here in idaho vs. washington... but my sales tax was higher(that I can control if I wish to be conservative).. so technically I get more of my pay check taken away here in idaho vs. seattle... its a matter of how you live and where you live.. each place has its own culture. Just because a place votes democratic doesn't make it liberal you know... and just because a place votes republican doesn't make it conservative either....there's much more involved when pigeonholing anything liberal or conservative... but it is fair to say the northeast and northwest are very liberal and many islands of conservatives exist throughout the midwest and south... but the majority of the country is pretty moderate.... perhaps they are the ones that suffer.. the old saying.. stand for nothing, fall for anything... its not a matter of something is better than the other in general, its a matter of what an individual desires... and what is attracted to each... Idaho is near the bottom of the list when it comes to college educated people.. while our neighbour washington is number one on the list...

[StillwaterTownie]

Originally Posted by JustinFromBoise

Ahhh, Detroit Mi, Flint Mi, New Jersey, DC, What wonderful liberal places, what a high standard of life they enjoy.

Northern Utah, Orange County, Colorado, these are horrible, let me tell you horribly depressed aplaces.

Maybe happiness is defined as half of you pay check being taken to support Johnny Crackpipe.

Who the hell is Johnny Crackpipe?

[saganista]

Johnny Crackpipe? He's another one of the fairy tale characters that right-wingers invent in trying to explain and justify their silly social policy ideas. Sort of like Welfare Queen or Prom Dress Girl. These are actually popular icons of faith among a certain sort...

[jufrbo]

Originally Posted by boiseguy

well, I moved to idaho from seattle, and I pay much more income tax here in idaho vs. washington... but my sales tax was higher(that I can control if I wish to be conservative).. so technically I get more of my pay check taken away here in idaho vs. seattle... its a matter of how you live and where you live.. each place has its own culture. Just because a place votes democratic doesn't make it liberal you know... and just because a place votes republican doesn't make it conservative either....there's much more involved when pigeonholing anything liberal or conservative... but it is fair to say the northeast and northwest are very liberal and many islands of conservatives exist throughout the midwest and south... but the majority of the country is pretty moderate.... perhaps they are the ones that suffer.. the old saying.. stand for nothing, fall for anything... its not a matter of something is better than the other in general, its a matter of what an individual desires... and what is attracted to each... Idaho is near the bottom of the list when it comes to college educated people.. while our neighbour washington is number one on the list...

I know this, but got sick of all the conservative bashing. BTW I'm I'm pretty socially liberal.

[jufrbo]

Originally Posted by saganista

Johnny Crackpipe? He's another one of the fairy tale characters that right-wingers invent in trying to explain and justify their silly social policy ideas. Sort of like Welfare Queen or Prom Dress Girl. These are actually popular icons of faith among a certain sort...

How could I be so foolish to believe the right wing conspiracy that there are drug addicts on welfare? You're right everyone on welfare is simply "Down on their luck." The only place drug testing should occur is the welfare line.

[boiseguy]

people on drugs need help... not a handout.. I agree... but puting them in prison doesn't solve the problem either...

[UB50]

Originally Posted by bchris02

Out of everywhere, I have to say the town of Fort Smith, Arkansas (Pop 80,000) takes the crown for conservatism. About 1 out of 2 cars in any parking lot has some form of conservative bumper sticker (Bush/Cheney, religious, anti-gay, etc). If you don't support Bush here, you better keep it to yourself. Our mayor is a leader in the local church, and is elected every time based on that religiousity. Our radio dial has 8 religious stations. There aren't any so-called "Progressive churches" in this town. There is one Catholic church thats about as progressive as you are going to find. Most of the population is some shade of Baptist or Pentacostal/Assembly of God. You would be lucky to make it out alive here if you were gay. Our town was the #5 city for job loss in the nation in 2006, yet the citizens refuse to accept any alternative means to bring jobs to the town because it might bring sin into the town. The mayor organizes HUGE events to protest development. Back in the 90s, the city would not let IBM build a plant in Ft. Smith, which would have given the region MUCH NEEDED high-tech jobs, because of their sexual orientation non-discrimnation policy. Hooters was protested when they tried to come into town. We have 6 Wal-Mart Supercenters yet citizens complain and file lawsuit when Target wants to come into town and give them some competition. We have an extremely high sales tax, at 9.25%. I could go on and on.

Yikes! This sounds extremely scary! It's like "Welcome to the Dark Ages..." I've been through Ft. Smith and it's a very pretty town but I didn't know what was lying underneath it all.