What cities are most conservative? (crime, parties, government, states)

[UB50]

I think if you are looking for conservative places to live, you need to look for the following:

Poor roads (paying for good roads is a form of socialism)
Unpaved roads (ditto above)
Lots of churches (Conservatives love their churches)
Wal-mart (At least one if not more)
No high end stores (High end stores reflect prosperity in a community, conservatives believe in rock bottom wages)
Lots of American Flags
"God Bless George Bush" bumper stickers
Most people driving rather than walking (Only liberals walk)
No Starbucks (Isn't Starbucks liberal?)
Women's shoe stores specializing in "Function, not Fashion"

I'm sure others can add to this list.

[jufrbo]

Originally Posted by boiseguy

people on drugs need help... not a handout.. I agree... but puting them in prison doesn't solve the problem either...

I think drugs should be decriminalized, but the fact is they aren't. The fact is people wait around for their monthly social security check to spend on drugs, this isn't a right-wing lie. Sure they need help, but not from my tax money. If your stupid enough to **** up your life then you have to deal with it. I don't give a **** if your a "victim" bad things happen some people get over it and become productive members of society. Others sit around bitching and moaning, and shooting up.

[jufrbo]

Originally Posted by UB50

I think if you are looking for conservative places to live, you need to look for the following:

Poor roads (paying for good roads is a form of socialism)
Unpaved roads (ditto above)
Lots of churches (Conservatives love their churches)
Wal-mart (At least one if not more)
No high end stores (High end stores reflect prosperity in a community, conservatives believe in rock bottom wages)
Lots of American Flags
"God Bless George Bush" bumper stickers
Most people driving rather than walking (Only liberals walk)
No Starbucks (Isn't Starbucks liberal?)
Women's shoe stores specializing in "Function, not Fashion"

I'm sure others can add to this list.

Dude, your diluted.

[saganista]

Originally Posted by JustinFromBoise

How could I be so foolish to believe the right wing conspiracy that there are drug addicts on welfare?

How could you be so foolish as to believe that ALL welfare recipients are drug addicts, as the imaginary Johnny Crackpipe character would suggest?

Originally Posted by JustinFromBoise

You're right everyone on welfare is simply "Down on their luck."

Considerably more than half of all welfare recipients are children.

Originally Posted by JustinFromBoise

The only place drug testing should occur is the welfare line.

You might net as interesting a haul in the boardroom.

[jufrbo]

Originally Posted by saganista

How could you be so foolish as to believe that ALL welfare recipients are drug addicts, as the imaginary Johnny Crackpipe character would suggest?


Considerably more than half of all welfare recipients are children.


You might net as interesting a haul in the boardroom.

I didn't say all of them were. So the ones that aren't should have no problem proving they aren't. If you really need help thats fine. If people in the board room are on drugs that's cool, more power to them, difference is they're paying for their own damn drugs.

[StillwaterTownie]

Originally Posted by UB50

I think if you are looking for conservative places to live, you need to look for the following:

Poor roads (paying for good roads is a form of socialism)
Unpaved roads (ditto above)
Lots of churches (Conservatives love their churches)
Wal-mart (At least one if not more)
No high end stores (High end stores reflect prosperity in a community, conservatives believe in rock bottom wages)
Lots of American Flags
"God Bless George Bush" bumper stickers
Most people driving rather than walking (Only liberals walk)
No Starbucks (Isn't Starbucks liberal?)
Women's shoe stores specializing in "Function, not Fashion"

I'm sure others can add to this list.

You got Oklahoma well covered, except that Starbucks has finally been catching on in Oklahoma. The first Starbucks recently opened in Stillwater with another one under construction.

[boiseguy]

Originally Posted by JustinFromBoise

I think drugs should be decriminalized, but the fact is they aren't. The fact is people wait around for their monthly social security check to spend on drugs, this isn't a right-wing lie. Sure they need help, but not from my tax money. If your stupid enough to **** up your life then you have to deal with it. I don't give a **** if your a "victim" bad things happen some people get over it and become productive members of society. Others sit around bitching and moaning, and shooting up.

seems you're letting a few statistics effect your perception of the entire welfare system... fact of the matter is.. most people on the system are single mothers with children.. who do work or go to school.. granted there are people who abuse the system... and that is not acceptable, but don't use that small few to attack the whole system... its there for a reason, and there are successful people out there that have used it and defend it.
I don't believe in right or left wing lies... I think its just perception... but don't play victim either by claiming your taxes are going to every drug addict out there... I don't agree with the notion that we are all individual and owe nobody anything.. I think we all owe something to the society, because we never know when and if we might be at the lower demographics of it. Drug Addiction is a serious disease, that must be addressed, and I'm merely stating that the typical conservative approach in locking them up behind bars is not fixing the problem... in fact it is costing tax payers more money..
would you rather spend tax dollars to address problems? or build massive prisons and feed and cloth people in them so you can feel safe and the problem is out of sight out of mind?

[NewToCA]

Originally Posted by UB50

I think if you are looking for conservative places to live, you need to look for the following:

Poor roads (paying for good roads is a form of socialism)
Unpaved roads (ditto above)
Lots of churches (Conservatives love their churches)
Wal-mart (At least one if not more)
No high end stores (High end stores reflect prosperity in a community, conservatives believe in rock bottom wages)
Lots of American Flags
"God Bless George Bush" bumper stickers
Most people driving rather than walking (Only liberals walk)
No Starbucks (Isn't Starbucks liberal?)
Women's shoe stores specializing in "Function, not Fashion"

I'm sure others can add to this list.

I spent a week in Lawton, OK a few years ago, and that description is fairly accurate of that town (don't know their politics but I would bet fairly conservative). Let me add a couple of items though, lots of full sized pickup trucks and a Circle K store at least every mile.

[boiseguy]

I would consider myself a liberal conservative in these matters, because I'm all about spending the least amount of tax money on things, but being liberal in that I'm open to new ideas and approaches. sometimes it means coughing up more money in the here and now to save money in the long run... its like buying a car.. if I could write a check for it.. why not? why finance it and drag it out and end up paying double the amount by the time its paid off?

here in boise there are initiatives to implement commuter rail service and expand public transportation, yet money is being put together to expand freeways when they haven't even adequately addressed the maintainence of exisisting freeways... Every city planner that has come here to give advice about growth has stated public transportation is the best way to address these problems, yet people don't want to foot the bill for it now... when come 10-20 years when things are really a mess it will cost 10-20 times as much... every major city that is implementing rail lines and public transport has said.. its 10-20 years too late.. and that they wished they had addressed it sooner...
Will boise learn from it? I think our leaders are.... and I think it is a step away from the typical conservative approach.. but sadly Boise is a wonderful city in a very conservative state... where the state legislature seems counter productive to everything and everyone....conservative places do well if they don't grow or change.. that is the essence of conserving... but sadly that isn't how life works.. so there's those who address the problems and those who are against how the problem is being addressed.. without a counter option of how to address the problems...catch 22

[jufrbo]

Originally Posted by boiseguy

seems you're letting a few statistics effect your perception of the entire welfare system... fact of the matter is.. most people on the system are single mothers with children.. who do work or go to school.. granted there are people who abuse the system... and that is not acceptable, but don't use that small few to attack the whole system... its there for a reason, and there are successful people out there that have used it and defend it.
I don't believe in right or left wing lies... I think its just perception... but don't play victim either by claiming your taxes are going to every drug addict out there... I don't agree with the notion that we are all individual and owe nobody anything.. I think we all owe something to the society, because we never know when and if we might be at the lower demographics of it. Drug Addiction is a serious disease, that must be addressed, and I'm merely stating that the typical conservative approach in locking them up behind bars is not fixing the problem... in fact it is costing tax payers more money..
would you rather spend tax dollars to address problems? or build massive prisons and feed and cloth people in them so you can feel safe and the problem is out of sight out of mind?

Read the first line, it clearly says decriminalize them. If I sounded brash on welfare, I didn't mean to, I have known people on welfare and for about a year that I was growing up my father was on welfare, and I doubt if hes ever even smoked weed, but he got off it within the same year. This may not be the case for everyone. I guess it was my round about way of saying drug test those on welfare, that way evil conservatives like myslef will not assume everyone on welfare is on drugs. I think drugs should be a choice, but if you make that choice, then you must live with it.