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Old 08-19-2009, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Texas
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What charities do you give to...just curious.
church (not necessarily a "charity" but they do good things with the money....lets see how many negative comments i get about giving to my church), houston childrens, texas dpsoa, and goodwill (lots of clothes and unused things from our house...not trashy stuff).

if i have to pay for other's insurance all of that will disappear as far as i am concerned. i will have garage sales instead of giving to goodwill. my church that feeds needy and gives school supplies and countless other things will not have that extra money from me.

do you approve?
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Old 08-19-2009, 06:05 PM
 
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26.9% of Texans are uninsured

How is that even possible?
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Old 08-19-2009, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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They must be counting the illegal aliens. Yes, they will be included on Obamacare.
NO, they won't.

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Refrain from telling lies??? What a whopper!!!

How big did your nose just get Pinocchio? You guys don't get away with that little fantasy.

Close to 22% of that 46 million uninsured are illegal aliens...you think they're just going back home because Obama lies to us they aren't in the healthcare bill?

I don't trust anyone in this administration, they aren't telling the American public the truth. And you aren't either.

Importing the Uninsured by James R. Edwards Jr. on National Review Online
No, they're not going to go back home, but they're not going to be covered, either, at least as things stand now.
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:03 PM
 
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No, they're not going to go back home, but they're not going to be covered, either, at least as things stand now.
Yes, they WILL be covered, because of a bill called S.9 - Stronger Economy, Stronger Borders Act of 2009.

This is Harry Reid's amnesty bill, link here - S.9: Stronger Economy, Stronger Borders Act of 2009 - U.S. Congress - OpenCongress

Amnesty makes all those illegal aliens suddenly LEGAL. Get it?

Here is a brief summary of the bill...apologies to the moderator if it's too long.

Official Summary
1/6/2009--Introduced.
Stronger Economy, Stronger Borders Act of 2009 - Expresses the sense of Congress that Congress should enact, and the President should sign, legislation to strengthen the economy, recognize the heritage of the United States as a nation of immigrants, and amend the Immigration and Nationality Act by:
(1) providing more effective border and employment enforcement;
(2) preventing illegal immigration; and
(3) reforming and rationalizing avenues for legal immigration.

#3 is the tricky line...reforming and rationalizing, that breaks everything wide open. And check out the list of co-sponsors, a conservative's nightmare, every liberal knucklehead senator.
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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And this bill will legalize everyone now in here illegally? And has it passed yet? I. . . . don't. . . . THINK. . . . so!
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:43 PM
 
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Refrain from telling lies??? What a whopper!!!

How big did your nose just get Pinocchio? You guys don't get away with that little fantasy.

Close to 22% of that 46 million uninsured are illegal aliens...you think they're just going back home because Obama lies to us they aren't in the healthcare bill?

I don't trust anyone in this administration, they aren't telling the American public the truth. And you aren't either.

Importing the Uninsured by James R. Edwards Jr. on National Review Online
Please show me where I've lied..Also, because "you don't trust" somebody doesn't make them liars. That's your personal paranoia. There's also no proof of you assertion that the number includes illegals who WONT be covered.

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I have no idea what Texans think about Obama but have you ever thought that maybe it is because people are wondering how the governement can afford to have the entire population on a medical plan?
Obama can explain how the program will be paid for until he's blue in the face but those that just don't like him will not accept it. It's why people have worked so hard to delegitimize his election. It gives them cause however falsely contrived to not trust him. See above..
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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Uninsured: Highest Percentage in Texas, Lowest in Mass.

"WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Higher percentages of Texas, New Mexico, and Mississippi residents are without health insurance -- roughly one in four -- than is true for any other states in the U.S. In Massachusetts, where legislation requires all residents to carry health insurance coverage or face a tax penalty, 5.5% are without insurance -- the lowest percentage in the country."

Big Red Texas, home of George W. Bush.

Shocker I tells ya, shocker!!
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Old 08-19-2009, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Over There
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Please show me where I've lied..Also, because "you don't trust" somebody doesn't make them liars. That's your personal paranoia. There's also no proof of you assertion that the number includes illegals who WONT be covered.



Obama can explain how the program will be paid for until he's blue in the face but those that just don't like him will not accept it. It's why people have worked so hard to delegitimize his election. It gives them cause however falsely contrived to not trust him. See above..

I have listend to him explain how we are suppose to pay for this and it is a whole lota double talk. He never says straight out. I am not a stupid woman and the last townhall he had in I forgot not the Colorado one but the one before that. I watched it and really was trying to understand how he is going to pay for it but I have no clue. Do you know? If you do can you please explain it to me in simple English. Many Thanks.
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Old 08-19-2009, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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As long as no one is seeking government assistance when they can't pay they can complain all they want about keeping it out of their health care.
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Old 08-19-2009, 08:22 PM
 
Location: Here
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26.9% of Texans are uninsured

How is that even possible?
Large Hispanic population.
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