Obama Screws Over Poland, Czech!!!

[jillz]

Originally Posted by Boompa

The "Missle Shield" is a scam, billions for a system that doesn't work to protect someone who doesn't need it from a threat that doesn't exist. All it is managing to do is upset the Russians, who have not threatened anyone.

1/2 of my family is in Poland and according to them, 75% of the residents do NOT want these missles. It is FAR more dangerous for them to be there than not. Anyway, cannot speak for the Czech Republic but according to my family in Poland, they do NOT want them.

[hawkeye2009]

Originally Posted by Milwaukee City

I'm sorry but I have had it with this president. I'm didn't vote for the guy but at the same time I wasn't completely opposed to him being president. I was 80/20 against him, but I have had it now with his stupid obama care and now he screws over Polska and Czech after we supported this country in everything for the last 20 years. The US's two biggest allies are UK and Poland and now he just wants to pull the Missile defense system after we agreed on the whole deal...BAD BUSINESS. I'm furious you have no idea.

There is no reason to do this now, what happens now. There is no upside to this. Now Russia thinks it has the upper hand and we pander to another nation. I'm all for diplomacy but this is a walk in the opposite direction. There is no reason to scrap this idea especially when the two sides already agreed and then Obama gets elected and says to hell with it we are scrapping the Missile defense system.

EDITORIAL: Obama jilts Poland and the Czech Republic - Washington Times

Obama Officially Abandons Missile Defense in Europe » The Foundry

BBC NEWS | Europe | Obama denies Poland missile vow

Don't get excited. Hitler did the same thing and he turned out okay. Right?

[KevK]

Originally Posted by Milwaukee City

I'm sorry but I have had it with this president. I'm didn't vote for the guy but at the same time I wasn't completely opposed to him being president. I was 80/20 against him, but I have had it now with his stupid obama care and now he screws over Polska and Czech after we supported this country in everything for the last 20 years. The US's two biggest allies are UK and Poland and now he just wants to pull the Missile defense system after we agreed on the whole deal...BAD BUSINESS. I'm furious you have no idea.

There is no reason to do this now, what happens now. There is no upside to this. Now Russia thinks it has the upper hand and we pander to another nation. I'm all for diplomacy but this is a walk in the opposite direction. There is no reason to scrap this idea especially when the two sides already agreed and then Obama gets elected and says to hell with it we are scrapping the Missile defense system.

EDITORIAL: Obama jilts Poland and the Czech Republic - Washington Times

Obama Officially Abandons Missile Defense in Europe » The Foundry

BBC NEWS | Europe | Obama denies Poland missile vow

Good for Obama! That agreement was bad anyway.

[Dane_in_LA]

Originally Posted by hawkeye2009

Don't get excited. Hitler did the same thing and he turned out okay. Right?

Ehm - actually, Hitler placed massive military forces in Poland and Czechoslovakia. Admittedly, it was over the locals' forceful objections.

In this modern context, Poland had to be bribed to accept the missile defense system.

[MovingForward]

Originally Posted by blackandproud

Wait let me understand this...your bytching because the President is looking at cost to avoid adding to the already growing deficit, the same deficit that EVERYONE including the right has been hammering for months...
RIGHT

With these folks, Obama is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

You see, the real problem is that Obama is still black. If he could just figure a way out of that one . . . .

[MovingForward]

Originally Posted by jillz

1/2 of my family is in Poland and according to them, 75% of the residents do NOT want these missles. It is FAR more dangerous for them to be there than not. Anyway, cannot speak for the Czech Republic but according to my family in Poland, they do NOT want them.

Well, that pretty much lays it on the line, doesn't it?

[66nexus]

Originally Posted by Chorizo

Since when has cost caused him to take a step back?

The purchase of more F22's...you know, the 'other' thing people complained about him backing out of.

[NewToCA]

Originally Posted by Milwaukee City

I'm sorry but I have had it with this president. I'm didn't vote for the guy but at the same time I wasn't completely opposed to him being president. I was 80/20 against him, but I have had it now with his stupid obama care and now he screws over Polska and Czech after we supported this country in everything for the last 20 years. The US's two biggest allies are UK and Poland and now he just wants to pull the Missile defense system after we agreed on the whole deal...BAD BUSINESS. I'm furious you have no idea.

There is no reason to do this now, what happens now. There is no upside to this. Now Russia thinks it has the upper hand and we pander to another nation. I'm all for diplomacy but this is a walk in the opposite direction. There is no reason to scrap this idea especially when the two sides already agreed and then Obama gets elected and says to hell with it we are scrapping the Missile defense system.

EDITORIAL: Obama jilts Poland and the Czech Republic - Washington Times

Obama Officially Abandons Missile Defense in Europe » The Foundry

BBC NEWS | Europe | Obama denies Poland missile vow

I'm not surprised, foreign policy was a major reason I didn't support him. I expect him to "slow roll" Georgia and Ukraine admission into NATO discussions too.

[66nexus]

Originally Posted by mwruckman

If you think putting anti-ballistic missiles which are a threat to Russia in nations right on the Russian border is a good thing. Think again, Mr Medvedev and Mr Putin can counter this threat by putting Russian S-300 or the new S-500 missles in Cuba these are Russia's answer to THAAD and are quite capable of picking off any rocket launched from the Canaveral Air Station or the NASA Kennedy Space Center. They can also pick off spacecraft in orbit and a lot of our stuff flies from Florida and every few orbits comes with in range from Cuba when it passes over Florida. Since these missiles are defensive in nature and upgraded from missiles designed to shoot down aircraft they are just like our Patriot missiles we wouldn't have a leg to stand on if we wanted to challenge this action.

Sorry, but our launch capabilities go far beyond the sites you named (especially forward launch platforms like submarines or surface warships) The US along with China proved that we can take out satellites so if the Russians are 'picking' off ours, what do you think we'd be doing to theirs?