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Old 08-29-2009, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Fairfax
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Affluence lends itself to liberalism, not the other way around. Actually I doubt your political leanings really impact your money-earning ability all that much. In any case, many of these counties are not made up primarily of these high earners but the rich have a heavier impact on the counties wealth statistics.
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Old 08-29-2009, 04:30 PM
 
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North Carolina went Obama last year ( partly due to changing demographics). Charlotte is blue. Many white collar people in banking moving into Charlotte and changing the the state's demographic hence the state turning bluer and bluer.

Look at Virginia for instance. All the younger more educated "liberal" professionals moving into NoVa turned the state solidly blue! Hooray for the changing demographics of America!
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Old 08-29-2009, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Fairfax
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to the OP: You need to post a link to your "statistics'' regarding counties' income as from just a cursory glance it seems wildly inaccurate. According to the below link New York county has neither a household income that high nor a per capita. Obviously NYC as a whole will not be higher.

New York County QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau

On second thought, some of the places you listed were counties and some were cities....wtf?!

I'm not saying your underlying point is incorrect, I'm just really confused by your statistics.
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Old 08-29-2009, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Southeast
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And they still both fail miserably when it comes to attracting and producing high-income earners. Especially when compared to liberal NYC, Washington and San Francisco.
Probably because NYC and San Fransisco have more people in a few blocks than the entire state of Alabama has over several million square miles. A lot of high income earners have come to areas like Birmingham and Huntsville, mostly in the fields of aerospace, healthcare, and aviation.

Personally, I am glad most people view the area the way you do, keeps the more ignorant crowd from tainting an otherwise pristine region.

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Good for Alabama. Unfortunately, it's still a low-income, backwards, uneducated cesspool with a dark past that holds absolutely no allure.
Like I said, it is good that people have this attitude, keeps them from moving here and ruining the state.

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Didn't some town in Alabama have its first racially integrated prom last year? (versus the segregated "colored" and white prom)? Well at least the state's taking baby steps.
I believe that was actually in Georgia.

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And the last time I checked, Atlanta and Charlotte were both....BLUE.
Quite green this time of year actually..

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And who really needs to earn $1,000,000 a year in New York? That doesn't stop people in New York City from earning $1,000,000 per year.
One million does not go all that far in NYC.

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It's not what you need, it's what you're worth.
If you measure people by their material wealth.

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Seems to me that you refuse to wake up from that deep dream. The day those red welfare States (Alabama, Oklahoma, West Virginia, Arkansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Kentucky) pass up California, New York, Connecticut, Maryland, Washington, Massachusetts will be the day hell freezes over.
In that case, hell is about to get a lot colder..

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Don't forget another subgroup; the wealthiest Americans and highest educated.
The wealthy and highly educated are a minority compared to the uneducated and impoverished end of the DNC lineup. Republicans still dominate among the middle class as well as those with between 2 and 6 years of college.
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Old 08-29-2009, 04:53 PM
 
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Probably because NYC and San Fransisco have more people in a few blocks than the entire state of Alabama has over several million square miles. A lot of high income earners have come to areas like Birmingham and Huntsville, mostly in the fields of aerospace, healthcare, and aviation.
By percentage and in raw numbers, Alabama might at well be some third-world poverty-stricken corner of Bangladesh when compared to NYC or San Francisco.

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Personally, I am glad most people view the area the way you do, keeps the more ignorant crowd from tainting an otherwise pristine region.
Ironically, "ignorance" and "Alabama" go hand in hand. Pick up a history book and read about the state's shameful past. People still conjure up negative images when they hear the words "Alabama" for a reason.

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I believe that was actually in Georgia.
It was actually Mississippi. Same thing. Both backwards, highly uneducated, poor, socialist (lol, it's fun throwing that word back at Republicans) states that suck up money from more productive areas of the country.


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The wealthy and highly educated are a minority compared to the uneducated and impoverished end of the DNC lineup. Republicans still dominate among the middle class as well as those with between 2 and 6 years of college.
The Democratic Party is a big tent as opposed to the Southern-Angry-White-Christian-Male regime that is the GOP, and that's a good thing.
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Old 08-29-2009, 04:54 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Most rich people I know sure the heck are not liberal in any way.

Most liberals who are rich either was handed the money from mom and dad or got it from a corporate welfare deal. ( Just using a typical dems line! )

Someone forgot to add that the many of the poorest areas are majority of liberals.

And please add the fact that most people who are on welfare, food stamps, free healthcare, free college etc normally are and vote liberal.

Based on this past fluke election people are creating information from it. Believe me many of those people who voted this village idiot in are not democrats and those who are know they made a mistake.

After Obama is done with ruining American there wont be many democratic strongholds left.

Wonder how many of those wealthy libs are part of the 47% of Americans who actually pay taxes while the other bums who pay no taxes have to be liberal don't they? You know the welfare types who get away with paying nothing.
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Old 08-29-2009, 05:00 PM
 
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Most rich people I know sure the heck are not liberal in any way.
Most rich people I know are liberal. I highly doubt you know many rich people. And according to statistics, the wealthiest Americans are liberal.

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Most liberals who are rich either was handed the money from mom and dad or got it from a corporate welfare deal. ( Just using a typical dems line! )
Post your source, please.

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Someone forgot to add that the many of the poorest areas are majority of liberal
Hm, wrong; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowest-income_counties_in_the_United_States

Look how the poorest hillbilly counties that dominate this list are GOP strongholds.

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And please add the fact that most people who are on welfare, food stamps, free healthcare, free college etc normally are and vote liberal.
The states who receive the most welfare are Red. Please revert to my "Red State Socialism" chart.
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Based on this past fluke election people are creating information from it. Believe me many of those people who voted this village idiot in are not democrats and those who are know they made a mistake.
Something tells me you will not be a happy camper come 2012.

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After Obama is done with ruining American there wont be many democratic strongholds left.
Right.

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Wonder how many of those wealthy libs are part of the 47% of Americans who actually pay taxes while the other bums who pay no taxes have to be liberal don't they? You know the welfare types who get away with paying nothing.
Yes Bill Gates, Warren Buffet and all don't pay taxes.
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Old 08-29-2009, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Fairfax
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North Carolina went Obama last year ( partly due to changing demographics). Charlotte is blue. Many white collar people in banking moving into Charlotte and changing the the state's demographic hence the state turning bluer and bluer.

Look at Virginia for instance. All the younger more educated "liberal" professionals moving into NoVa turned the state solidly blue! Hooray for the changing demographics of America!
I think the results of the recent election are more of a rebuttal of Bush rather than a large-scale democratization of the country. Politics is about momentum and the pendulum will swing the other way if not next election than the one after-many of the states that flipped blue last time will be back to red next time for a variety of reasons.

Also do you have an explanation for your shady statistics or are you going to ignore this?
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Old 08-29-2009, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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How strange that no one wants to respond to this thread...
They are only rich because, as we have been shown with all of the tax cheats 0bama has been nominating, democrats don't pay their taxes.

Seriously though, i'm not sure what this proves, maybe the OP is trying to expose the lie that republicans are the rich?

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Based on results from last years election and statistics from the IRS, the wealthiest counties in the United States vote Democrat. I guess that kills the "welfare" argument.

Morris, New Jersey $71,713 DEMOCRAT
Somerset, New Jersey $70,949 DEMOCRAT
Hunterdon, New Jersey $66,449 DEMOCRAT


BTW, anyone know what the crime rates of those democrat strongholds are, or what the disparity between the haves, and the have nots are in those rich democrat counties??

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NEW JERSEY AND THE NATION
The Garden State is home to three of the top ten counties with the highest median family income (Hunterdon, Morris, and Somerset) as well as cities with some of the highest percentages of residents living below the poverty line – such as Newark, Camden and Paterson.

The causes of rising inequality are varied across regions. Many cite growing wage inequality and expansions of investment incomes. Some say that government policies including deregulation, privatization, as well as trade and tax policies have exacerbated economic inequality. Strikingly, New Jersey is more unequal than most states, with the 14th largest gap between the richest and poorest. While New Jersey does follow many of the national socioeconomic trends, the state has emerged – over the last few decades – as both an exception and a model for progressive legislation.

Center for Race & Ethnicity Between Privilege and Poverty: Perspectives on New Jersey Disparities
Looks like maybe their are a lot of rich democrats, but why the huge disparity between the wealthy and the poor in these Democratic counties that the OP is so proud of?

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Old 08-29-2009, 09:59 PM
 
Location: PNW
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Well duh, rich/educated/enlightened folk vote for Democrat.

I remember I was driving out of NYC and I was passing through Pennsylvania and I was behind this ratty Chevy pickup truck at a gas station with a South Carolina license plate with bumper sticker that read "I'll keep my money, guns, and freedom you can keep the "CHANGE""

I read it out loud and went up to him and asked him "and what money do you have?" His redneck face so red in rage as I walked back to my Mercedes. His limited vocabulary obviously left him dumbfounded. Uneducated trailer-trash are such a waste of time and he should be awfully grateful since he would be benefiting from this alleged wealth spreading from wealthy liberals. The wealthiest such as Bill Gates and Warren Buffet are liberals, for instance.

Poor people are the only ones who shout "Socialism!".
The guuuyyy in the truuuuuuuck was obviously a Yale man!
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