Do you support the war on pornography? (Representatives, cocaine, weapons)

[JBrown]

Originally Posted by solidsquid

I think davidt1's post was more tongue in cheek than completely serious.

Of course it was....and I've made mental note of the tongue in cheek phrase.
Very appropiate

[Lisa_from_Debary]

Originally Posted by davidt1

Most man get their jollies from porn because they have no woman to make love to. Don't be so hard on us. It's the women's fault really. You make it so hard for us to find and make love to you. Men have no choice but to resort to porn for their sexual need. Without this outlet men would go nuts. Crimes would go up through the roof. Society would break down. If you think about it, porn really saves the day.

So basically your saying that men have no real control over themselves without endulging in something sordid like Pornography?

[Lisa_from_Debary]

Originally Posted by Aqualung

You just eliminated 90% of men from your list of potential mates. And that 10% that's left, they're just creepy.

I have been single for 5 years...I really don't want another man in my life...certainly not one who cheapens sex in that way...no thanks.

I have cats...I get along better with males better once they have been declawed and castrated.

[nvxplorer]

Originally Posted by Lisa_from_Debary

I have been single for 5 years...I really don't want another man in my life...certainly not one who cheapens sex in that way...no thanks.

Some of us get a thrill out of cheap sex. And no...I'm not single.

IMO, a healthy sex life (sans taboo) is no different than anything else. Sometimes you're in the mood for an extravagent and costly restaurant dinner. Other times a home cooked meal does the trick, and sometimes fast food hits the spot. Variety is surely the spice of life, and sometimes cheap sex is just what the doctor ordered.

(Excuse the cliche ridden paragraph. )

[davidt1]

I was just on a couple of sordid websites getting some jollies. I am back now. Lisa, I am sorry to hear that you have not had someone in your life in for five years. You sound like a sweet person. Cats are nice. I like them too. But I know you deserve better than hanging out with cats all day.

[Mooseketeer]

Originally Posted by saganista

I think plenty of people care. But there isn't a necessary link between porn and human trafficking and other organized crime, just as there has never been a necessary link between smoking a joint and Central American death squads. That links do indeed exist is in some sense fallout from the regimes that society has been talked into creating vis-a-vis porn and marijuana. If either were to be decriminalized and/or regulated and taxed, there might be a better chance of isolating and reducing these side effects, something that nearly all porn and pot consumers would favor.

I agree Saganista , there is not a "necessary" link but the reality is that organised crime and the porn industry are linked at the moment, and therefore anyone who indulges in it is basically condoning a kind of horrific slavery so they can have a bit of fun. I find this incredibly selfish and inhumane as well as naive for people to say "not my problem, hey I am only watching consenting American starlets anyway".

I do believe that pornography dehumanizes sex and makes it tawdry and nasty and is demeaning to women but I would not ban it if it was regulated and I could be assured that it was a "clean" industry regarding human rights. As it is not , yes I do think it should be banned until people start realising that their actions have impact on others.

I have never met a woman who was happy about pornography though most do pretend to enjoy it to keep their partners happy and to not be called"frigid". I think it is naive to call it harmless fun though as it is a form of exploitation and IMO any form of exploitation should be condemned and dealt with.

I am lucky enough to have a partner who is mature enough to realise how puerile and sad the whole thing is. We talked very openly about this issue since we started our relationship and he agrees with me. Having to rely on pornography like a lot of men do for kicks is rather sad and creepy in my opinion. Having fantastic and loving sex should not require porn.

Another issue is with the booming of internet pornography , human rights and human trafficking issues will be even more of a problem. Most porn is now downloaded from PCs , and it is impossible to regulate so how on earth do you know whether the woman you are watching is consenting and happy, or a sex slave who is being forced to perform?
It seems most people really do not care as long as their own little lives benefits from this. That I do find extremely disturbing indeed.

[Mooseketeer]

Originally Posted by Lisa_from_Debary

I have been single for 5 years...I really don't want another man in my life...certainly not one who cheapens sex in that way...no thanks.

I have cats...I get along better with males better once they have been declawed and castrated.

I agree, porn is for sad losers who obviously are lacking in the maturity and adequacy department.

I wouldn't go quite that far usually, but with some posters on this thread, well you might just have convinced me !

[DocGSD]

Originally Posted by KewGee

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The comment by another poster, ~~ Also, don't forget porn is one of the BIGGEST and most profitable businesses in America. You kill porn and you kill a vital portion of our nation's riches. ~~ is very disheartening to me. If this is one way America is getting rich, I trust our nation is in more trouble than I imagined.

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You said it!!!

[nvxplorer]

Originally Posted by Mooseketeer

I agree Saganista , there is not a "necessary" link but the reality is that organised crime and the porn industry are linked at the moment, and therefore anyone who indulges in it is basically condoning a kind of horrific slavery so they can have a bit of fun. I find this incredibly selfish and inhumane as well as naive for people to say "not my problem, hey I am only watching consenting American starlets anyway".

What slavery? Can you support such a claim? AFAIK, people who work in the industry do so of their own free will. If you want slavery, go to Thailand. Or a Chinese sweat shop. Are you sure every good you purchase hasn't been produced using forced labor?

I do believe that pornography dehumanizes sex and makes it tawdry and nasty and is demeaning to women but I would not ban it if it was regulated and I could be assured that it was a "clean" industry regarding human rights. As it is not , yes I do think it should be banned until people start realising that their actions have impact on others.

How on earth would one "dehumanize" sex? That makes no sense at all. How can a form of expression, which can be freely consumed or rejected, dehumanize anything?

There are good and bad players in any industry. Have you stopped consuming energy because of Enron?

I have never met a woman who was happy about pornography though most do pretend to enjoy it to keep their partners happy and to not be called"frigid". I think it is naive to call it harmless fun though as it is a form of exploitation and IMO any form of exploitation should be condemned and dealt with.

Exploitation? LOL. Do you have any idea how much money the women make? If anyone is being exploited, it's the men who support the industry.

I am lucky enough to have a partner who is mature enough to realise how puerile and sad the whole thing is. We talked very openly about this issue since we started our relationship and he agrees with me. Having to rely on pornography like a lot of men do for kicks is rather sad and creepy in my opinion. Having fantastic and loving sex should not require porn.

Different strokes for different folks. Accepting this simple truth is the hallmark of maturity.

Another issue is with the booming of internet pornography , human rights and human trafficking issues will be even more of a problem. Most porn is now downloaded from PCs , and it is impossible to regulate so how on earth do you know whether the woman you are watching is consenting and happy, or a sex slave who is being forced to perform?
It seems most people really do not care as long as their own little lives benefits from this. That I do find extremely disturbing indeed.

Can you back any of this up? Why would one need to enslave women when there are millions who are willing to do it for cash?

[nvxplorer]

Originally Posted by Mooseketeer

I agree, porn is for sad losers who obviously are lacking in the maturity and adequacy department.

I wouldn't go quite that far usually, but with some posters on this thread, well you might just have convinced me !

How ironic that you degradate a group of people whose sexual tastes differ from yours by calling them immature.

IMO, those who vilify porn have sexual hangups, which to me, signifies a lacking of maturity.