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Old 04-30-2007, 08:51 AM
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Do you think pornography should be reduced and eliminated from the internet or is it protected by free speech? Should the US government have any involvemnt at all in the restriction of this industry? Is porn degrading to certain groups, does it objectify and contribute to rapes or sexual assults?
1.) Do you think pornography should be reduced and eliminated from the internet or is it protected by free speech?
- Impossible to reduce or eliminate by U.S. pornography laws because of the internet is international, with off shore servers, etc. It is also very profitable. U.S. already has local pornography laws that are sufficient but they can not impact what is on the internet. But to answer your question, I don't like the government getting into the freedom of the internet except in cases of child porn.
2.) Should the US government have any involvemnt at all in the restriction of this industry?
-Again, you have the issue with offshore servers. I guess in theory the U.S. government could push this issue in international forums - U.N. etc and get interpol involved ,etc. Big waste of time. We do push to remove child pornography from the internet with specific laws and pressuring of international governments and that does work to some degree and of course is the right thing to do. Otherwise, no don't bother.
3.) Is porn degrading to certain groups, does it objectify and contribute to rapes or sexual assults?
-no!
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Old 04-30-2007, 08:52 AM
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Yes because the war on pornography will be just as successful as the war on drugs and prohibition.
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Not only this, but it's a major contributing factor to the rise of pedophilia. Then again, I'm also opposed to legalizing marijuana for the same reason. Not everyone that uses it goes on to using more addictive and destructive drugs, but it leads the way to it.

Can you support either argument or just opinion? I've never seen any legitimate study (and 'Reefer Madness' isn't ) proving marijuana or porn as gateways. Sure people many say 99% of heroin users have used marijuana, you can no doubt also say 99% of heroin users have eaten mashed potatoes. Maybe mashed potatoes are the real culprit.

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Old 04-30-2007, 09:25 AM
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YES!!!!!!!!!!! My MIL shows a video in her Sociology class, and the most shocking thing to me was that at the time the video was made (probably the 90's) every single serial killer in prison had two things in common: they abused animals as children and they were into pornography. Now, cleary pornography doesn't cause killing, but it does desensitize people to the value of humanity (especially women... why isn't NOW going after this?).
You forgot a few other things serial killers have in common. They eat food. They drink liquids, including water. They inhale oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide. They all urinate and deficate. They've all watched television. They've all driven automobiles. I could go on, but this list would be pages long.

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Not only this, but it's a major contributing factor to the rise of pedophilia.
Propaganda. Where is your evidence?

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Then again, I'm also opposed to legalizing marijuana for the same reason. Not everyone that uses it goes on to using more addictive and destructive drugs, but it leads the way to it.
Again, propaganda. There is absolutely no evidence that supports your claim.

A prohibition on pornography would fail miserably. However, I'm all for restrictions. I don't like the idea of my daughter opening up a spam email with pornography in it. I liked the idea of a .xxx domain, but that was rejected, recently. It needs to be easier to restrict access to pornography for children. This can all be attained by regulation. Prohibition would only create a black market. Black markets lead to violence. They ALWAYS lead to violence and it's played out on our streets.
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Old 04-30-2007, 09:40 AM
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Do you think pornography should be reduced and eliminated from the internet or is it protected by free speech? Should the US government have any involvemnt at all in the restriction of this industry? Is porn degrading to certain groups, does it objectify and contribute to rapes or sexual assults?
YES! It should be eliminated from the internet and every other place too. But I know it won't be. I don't believe anything good ever comes from it.
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Old 04-30-2007, 09:52 AM
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Adults should be able to view porn if they choose, as long as the porn is adult actors. I wouldn't mind seeing the legal age for porn actors be 21 instead of 18.

My biggest issue is the ease with which children can access porn on the internet. There is only one filter between kids and porn, and that is parents setting filters on the computers themselves. Sounds good huh? Just make the parents do their job and the kids won't be looking at something? Perfect. Lets stop having an age limit on booze. Parents should be responsible for keeping there kid from getting beer at the store, not the store or alcohol companies. Yeah right. How about we put the responsibilities on adults, especially the ones pedalling the porn?

The websites that make you click to agree that you are 18 or older make me laugh. If a kid is surfing for porn, do you think he's gonna click "No" when that pops up?

Also, porn spam mails I totally agree with eliminating completely, unless they can come up with a way to verify the age of the recipients of their emails.

So as for banning porn? No, I don't support it. As for making porn companies and pedallers more responsible in keeping porn from being ridiculously easy for kids to access? YES!!!! I am all for that.
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So as for banning porn? No, I don't support it. As for making porn companies and pedallers more responsible in keeping porn from being ridiculously easy for kids to access? YES!!!! I am all for that.
I agree, 100%.
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:01 AM
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Also, porn spam mails I totally agree with eliminating completely, unless they can come up with a way to verify the age of the recipients of their emails.

So as for banning porn? No, I don't support it. As for making porn companies and pedallers more responsible in keeping porn from being ridiculously easy for kids to access? YES!!!! I am all for that.


Another vote for a sensible approach! I agree.
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:23 AM
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I don't concur with censorship. I do however, fear for our repressed society. Woman are still taught that they are just their looks. Why is the female body so exploited and men are not? Our whole society is fantasy driven and internet porn has let the cat (reeeeooooow) of out the bag. I am not repressed sexually. Anyone that is, is going to feel freedom that they feel they don't have in real life on internet porn. Many relationships these days are suffering from the effects. Mine is. Why am I in the relationship?

I am still struggling with the thought that I am repressed, with low self esteem and maybe wrong in my views. I don't want to watch porn with my boyfriend. He suggested girls gone wild and I suggested guys gone wild. No go. There is a huge double standard out there. That is just soft porn.

A guy's bum in the movies is a big deal, yet nude women are everywhere. 300 has woman on woman and nudity, rape and homosexuality throughout. I wonder if men would change their tune if they had to watch their mate look at hot, hard, naked young men on almost every channel. I wonder how my fat, hairy, bald old man would feel about himself then? Women still aren't expected to enjoy nor want sex.

He feels threatened by my rampant sexuality, and I am violently angry that porn gets his sexual energy while I beg for partner relations (he likes his hand). When I say I am going to leave the relationship if my needs aren't met, abracadabra!, he is there.....for a while. Lying, sneaking and more repression is the result. I am tired of it, peeps. That is why I am here. I have no answers of my own. I know that this issue has made me feel old, boring, ugly, undesired and yes, sad.
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:26 AM
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between adults,as long as its not violent as in hitting and beating up then I would say keep it legal.Really let it be a local issue so people can have control over their community.The feds should stay out of it.The federal government have bigger fish to fry like those that would blow up our cities and destroy our economy.

It is always going to be around never the less,the fact that its a large part of certain economies is testiment to the fact people want that product.Good luck trying to control sexuality.....

And in honesty not all people have a wonderful sex life and have found their soul mate and there is a need for relief if you know what I mean.Some people are happy with their mate in some regards yet frustrated with them sexually,a little break in the routine can be a quick fix to that.

And to those that would say that it leads to degrading women and violent attitudes...admittedly I check it out sometimes and its because I love women that I do and yes Im single at the moment,but if I dedicate myself to a woman no matter what outside distractions there are I would remain true to her.True that some people can have wrong attitudes from something like that but I think thats more to do with upbringing then being exposed to porn,alchohol or whatever.

Fact is if you dont like something,as long as its not exposed to you ,it none of your business what someone else does.
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