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Well the first thing he should have done was clean his own house first.
Money and power does have too much influence and it's still very prevalent in this administration.
The union head now in the Federal Reserve Bank of NY ?
A former Monsanto guy in the FDA ?
Yet another Goldman Sachs graduate running the Treasury ?
Exemptions for numerous "lobbyists" to take government positions ?
Get "Corporate" out of government and return government to the people should have been first and foremost on his priority list.
NY Fed - he's been on the board since 2004.
Monsanto guy - he's a food safety expert, used to be with the FDA and USDA.
GS-Treasury - do you mean Geithner? He never worked at Goldman.
Lobbyists - I dont believe any are working for the Obama Admin who were lobbying more recently than two years ago.
I'll shut up about things when the conservatives freely admit that their guy Bush did far worse things in office than Obama has done. It's like the universe didn't exist prior to 01/21/09 for them. Obama is no saint, I didn't vote for him, but for chrissakes, can't conservatives stop screaming long enough to recognize their hypocrisy?
If there is blame to be dispensed, I'm sorry to admit that the tide has clearly shifted to the right. Their self-righteousness, their incessant need to "win" the battle at all costs, is undermining the country's foundation. They need to apply their "personal responsibility" mantra to themselves.
The union head now in the Federal Reserve Bank of NY ?
Denis Hughes was not nominated by Obama, but by the Fed Board of Governors. He will serve until the end of the year, replacing former Bush administration official Stephen Friedman who resigned over his ties to Goldman Sachs which created a conflict of interest once it ceased being an investment bank.
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A former Monsanto guy in the FDA ?
In the 1990's, Michael Taylor worked at both Monsanto and the USDA multiple times. Is there any more to the story than that? Was it not Taylor who rather shockingly imposed actual science-based inspection and strict enforcement standards on the meat industry from one of those prior USDA positions? Is his work since 2000 as a research professor at the George Washington University School of Public Health not a factor?
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Yet another Goldman Sachs graduate running the Treasury ?
When did Tim Geithner work for Goldman Sachs?
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Exemptions for numerous "lobbyists" to take government positions ?
The exemptions are very few and for good reason, and they are to rules that Obama first imposed himself.
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Get "Corporate" out of government and return government to the people should have been first and foremost on his priority list.
If the people want a larger say in their government, they have a responsibility to become well informed on those issues they wish to focus on. It is quite evident from what people post here that very few are actually willing to address that responsibility in any meaningful way.
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This isn't directed at the rabidly far left wing posters on this board. This is to those liberals that support Obama, but do have the ability to think for yourself.
Look, you can support this president. If you think that all these bills and ideas they're trying to pass are good for America in the long term, fine, nobody's going to change your mind.
My favor to ask is this....please keep your eyes open and if you see that maybe this administration isn't what you were promised, be willing to speak up.
The conservative movement is very concerned with all the control and apparent corruption that we see in this administration, but the last election created such an "us vs them" mentality, that many (on both sides) won't open their eyes to the other side's views. It's still an "us vs them" thing.
Our concerns are these:
1. This administration is appointing some very sketchy people to the cabinet. Tax cheats, self-avowed communists, far left radicals, etc. If the Bush administration had appointed the exact same folks, there would have been an uproar.
2. We're concerned that the administration is slowly working their way into our largest industries. They've currently got their hands in the auto industry, banking and health care. Even though people are saying "they'll just stay in it until they're fixed and get out", that means you have to put your trust in a government, which isn't a good idea. They've currently got tons of control over the private sector and when they've got that control, they can easily exploit it. Now he's talking about being able to take over the internet in case of "emergency". Giving ANYONE (right or left) this much power is dangerous.
3. We're concerned that anytime a group of people stands up to voice displeasure, the administration tries to brand them as extremists, nazis, etc. We're citizens of this country and our numbers are not small. We make up half of this country and to refuse to listen to half of the country signals an attempt at takeover.
If you can HONESTLY say that had all this happened with a conservative administration, you wouldn't have had a problem with it, then fine. You're getting what you want.
I don't expect anything but a bunch of the far left posters to jump on telling me to keep my tin foil hat on and flaming my viewpoints, but I feel confident that although you're obnoxious, you don't stand for the majority of Americans. Most of us are right in the center.
You don't have to jump on here saying "i've changed my ways" or grovel to anyone. But if you see the administration keep trying to take more and more power, PLEASE stand up before it's too late. Because if you just sit and assume they're looking out for your best interests, and don't call them on the carpet when you see things slipping away from us, we can't blame anyone but ourselves.
When the government is no longer scared of the people, democracy is in trouble.
""""""""The conservative movement is very concerned with all the control and apparent corruption that we see in this administration""""
OH??? Where were they during the last administration ???????
Give it a rest....the coin flipped and ya can't take the heat.
If the people want a larger say in their government, they have a responsibility to become well informed on those issues they wish to focus on. It is quite evident from what people post here that very few are actually willing to address that responsibility in any meaningful way.
Corporate is involved in government. Our government is now run by the corporation and for the corporation.
Just look at how they got billions of taxpayer dollars while the taxpayers themselves got what..$13/week ?
I'm for term limits, no lobbyists, campaign contribution reform and no job hopping from corporate to government where there poses a conflict of interest.
The thing that the previous regime did that this administration has zero clue how to do is STAY ON MESSAGE. This administration can't stay focuses on what it is exactly what they want to do. I'll give in to the Cheney administration, boy, they were very disciplined ... no matter what truth was thrown their way, they swatted it away like Roger Federer and kept playing the way they wanted to play. No WMD's? What? Huh? yes there are ... why? Because we said so! Torture? says who? no, we don't torture, we used enhanced interrogation methods!!!! Next!!!!! What do you mean planted former gay porn guy in the press room ... <crickets>. NO ... that wasn't Donald Rumsfeld in that picture shaking hands with Saddam Hussein, again, <crickets>. Please, I'll take tax dodgers over the murderers row that was in the previous regime anyday. Nobody died when Geithner didn't pay his taxes.
The Obama administration has nobody to blame for this quagmire of healthcare reform than themselves. They let the inmates run the asylum on this baby. Hopefully they'll learn from this.
I haven't seen too many posters claiming Obama can do no wrong. Just ones who claim he can do no right.
Well, I have certainly seen numerous Obama supporters on this board who never, ever think Obama's actions are even the slightest bit off center. But of course you are correct, there are plenty of anti Obama folks out there who will never say he did anything right.
I, on the other hand, am perfectly willing to judge each individual action on it's own merit, then form my opinion. The fact that I didn't support Obama's first three key pieces of legislation does not mean I will not support any of his actions. I am simply addicted to personal freedom and I don't want more government involvement in my life. So of course, Obama's baby, the healthcare bill, does not suit my palate. Then there's Cap and Trade. For now, I'll just leave it at the name without trying to discuss it. But suffice it to say, I don't like this plan either. But, two months from now, Obama just might pop up with something I do agree with. And then, I will say as much on this board and to anyone I may discuss the issue with.
The bottomline here though is, there are many many people out there who are really out of touch with what is actually going on. They simply support what their president tells them to support because hey, he's the president and thus must be looking out for us. So they blindly support whatever he says or does. We need concerned citizens out there actually paying attention who are willing to call time out, even when the team committing the foul is their own. This country is not made up of Repubs or Dems, Conservatives or Liberals, we are Americans. And we must find common ground if we are ever going to make a difference for the better in this country.
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