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Old 09-05-2009, 03:01 PM
 
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If you apply those standards to Obama and call him a murderer, you are agreeing with those who call Bush a murderer.

I guess that will go both ways.
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Old 09-05-2009, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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I guess that will go both ways.
I'm not as sure as you are. Obama inherited a war. Civilians die in war. The incident you posted about was a legitimate act of war -- targeting hijacked oil tankers in the belief they would be used for suicide bombings. The attack was a NATO action, not a US action. It's a stretch to put personal responsibility for the action on Obama.

On the other hand, Bush started a war in Iraq for reasons still not clear but certainly not for the reasons we were told. It was an unnecessary war. Civilians die in war. It isn't as big a stretch to put personal responsibility on Bush.
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Old 09-05-2009, 03:13 PM
 
Location: Keonsha, Wisconsin
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Barry's murderous war strategy kill 90!

Escalating his war of choice in Afghan can't be doing much to make the world like us. Will it be our fault if we get attacked again?

NATO airstrike in Afghanistan kills up to 90
Colatteral damage. Steal a gas tanker and see what happens to you, and people around you.

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Old 09-05-2009, 03:15 PM
 
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I'm not as sure as you are. Obama inherited a war. Civilians die in war. The incident you posted about was a legitimate act of war -- targeting hijacked oil tankers in the belief they would be used for suicide bombings. The attack was a NATO action, not a US action. It's a stretch to put personal responsibility for the action on Obama.

On the other hand, Bush started a war in Iraq for reasons still not clear but certainly not for the reasons we were told. It was an unnecessary war. Civilians die in war. It isn't as big a stretch to put personal responsibility on Bush.
People will not only stretch, but tie themselves into pretzel like knots that only a contortionist could achieve, to bash Obama.
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Old 09-05-2009, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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People will not only stretch, but tie themselves into pretzel like knots that only a contortionist could achieve, to bash Obama.
I think you mean "twist", not "tie".
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Old 09-05-2009, 03:37 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Obama should have stopped the war on terror when he came into office instead of promising to escalate it. The people that support Bush and Obama's actions don't understand war. We can not win this war of attrition. This isn't traditional western warfare. Read through the Art of War a few times and you will begin to understand how we already lost the war on terror.

There has never been a protracted war from which a county has benefited. - Sun Tzu
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Old 09-05-2009, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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Obama should have stopped the war on terror when he came into office instead of promising to escalate it. The people that support Bush and Obama's actions don't understand war. We can not win this war of attrition. This isn't traditional western warfare. Read through the Art of War a few times and you will begin to understand how we already lost the war on terror.

There has never been a protracted war from which a county has benefited. - Sun Tzu
Agree.
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Old 09-05-2009, 03:46 PM
 
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Uh, you do realize that Barry has decided he needs to escalate this losing battle? I would hope so.

I'm not protesting for or against Barry's Afghan war of choice, I'm just pointing out that he is a murderer.
Uh, you do realize that he is attempting to correct a major mistake by Bush43 I would hope.

And we all know what you're attempting to do, make a rather silly and lame connection between Bush43's ACTUAL war of choice in Iraq.

Partisan Politics at it's fienst.
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Old 09-05-2009, 03:50 PM
 
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Obama should have stopped the war on terror when he came into office instead of promising to escalate it. The people that support Bush and Obama's actions don't understand war. We can not win this war of attrition. This isn't traditional western warfare. Read through the Art of War a few times and you will begin to understand how we already lost the war on terror.

There has never been a protracted war from which a county has benefited. - Sun Tzu
No, there will be no victory, as there cannot be a "war on terror".

One cannot "war" against an ideology.

However, leaving Afstan at this point will only allow the Taliban to regain control and create a base of power for "terrorists" to use and to oeprate from.

This is a job that needs to be finished.
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Old 09-05-2009, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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No, there will be no victory, as there cannot be a "war on terror".

One cannot "war" against an ideology.

However, leaving Afstan at this point will only allow the Taliban to regain control and create a base of power for "terrorists" to use and to oeprate from.

This is a job that needs to be finished.
The Taliban or others like them will wait for us to leave no matter how long we stay. It's their home.
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