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Old 09-09-2009, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Eastern Long Island
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Oh by the way, along with the gun, we should brush up on our gardening skills too.... we all will be growing stuff in the yard !!
I've been growing a huge organic garden as well as raising chickens for years. I decided way before this mess started that I would learn how to sustain my family on 1/4 acre. When and if all hell breaks loose, we'll be ready.
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Old 09-09-2009, 07:35 AM
 
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wow dman, you are losing your sense of humor

Oh, you were kidding. I'm a bit touchy today.
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Hamburg, NY
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Read James Howard Kunstler's blog (a Roslyn native now living upstate) he spells things out quite nicely about where we are headed.
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:26 AM
 
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I'm not really all that worried...Obama is going to pull us out of this!
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:37 AM
 
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I've been growing a huge organic garden as well as raising chickens for years. I decided way before this mess started that I would learn how to sustain my family on 1/4 acre. When and if all hell breaks loose, we'll be ready.

Good plan, at least until the people with the guns show up and steal your chickens.
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:40 AM
 
Location: I'm gettin' there
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Read James Howard Kunstler's blog (a Roslyn native now living upstate) he spells things out quite nicely about where we are headed.
"Gardening is the new golf !!" ... I liked it.

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Good plan, at least until the people with the guns show up and steal your chickens.
So we should get the guns and chickens !!
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Old 09-09-2009, 09:13 AM
 
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if you don't own a firearm, go out and get one. Barry's next item after "fixing" the healthcrare system is to eliminate our right to bear arms.
I'm ready, our safe is full and I've got enough ammo for a small army.


But do you have a small army?


I've been growing a huge organic garden as well as raising chickens for years

ARM THE CHICKENS!
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Old 09-09-2009, 09:20 AM
 
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Guns don't kill people, chickens kill people.
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Old 09-09-2009, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Hamburg, NY
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I'm not really all that worried...Obama is going to pull us out of this!
Boy, there really is a generation gap between us Gen X'ers (in our 30's and 40's) and you Gen Y/Millennials (teens and 20's).

Obama certainly has my support and I wish him the best, but honestly I fully expect him to fail. No leader in my lifetime has lived up to their promises and things are so divided right now that we will be lucky to get through his first term without a civil war!

Your generation's overwhelming faith in government and the ability of our leaders to "save us" seems a little naive to me, but I'm glad you still have hope, someone I guess has to!
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Old 09-09-2009, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Live in NY, work in CT
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I think the real problem today is that we can't find a solution because we have become a ridiculously polarized and paranoid country of fear that can't somehow just pull together and see what we can do. This applies to both ends of the ideological spectrum.

The extreme left has too much faith and naivete in government, and the extreme right makes every action sound like "the end of the world" and puts fear into people who don't know what else to think ("pull the plug on grandma?" "indoctrinate Socialism in the schools?", give me a break.....in fact, the themes of "personal responsibility" throughout yesterday's "school speech" were closer to what the right generally says than the left to be honest; though I can't think of anyone who would logically disagree with the speech content.....granted I do think the "how can you help the President?" piece had the potential to make some uncomfortable and was properly removed).

In comparing to the Great Depression, the good news is our fast-paced, hi tech society is making everything go faster.....to analogize, we went from 1929 to 1932 in a matter of months, and we are now at the 1935-1937 period. In that I think like then, what government has done is starting to help, but back then (like now) fears about budget deficits started to scale things back and things went downhill again. But it is going to be trickier today since the Depression didn't start with past deficits and we have a much more "damned if we do, damned if we don't" situation.....if gov't doesn't try to help and stimulate demand at all, we will be at 30% unemployment now, but if they do and the deficit gets to high, we have similar disaster later.

Hopefully at some point, government and society will realized we need to get in a reasonable way the ideas from all viewpoints and somehow get that to something that will best work.
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