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Old 09-09-2009, 08:11 AM
 
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Michael Vick spoke to young impressionable minds yesterday. I have a problem with a liar and dirtball talking to kids.
Yet some parents liked what he said..

Esperanza students, parents like what Vick had to say | Philadelphia Daily News | 09/09/2009

The school could not get anyone else but a dirtball to speak with these students? Really?
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Old 09-09-2009, 09:40 AM
 
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"Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of the Humane Society of the United States, told reporters outside the school: 'If Michael Vick can turn 10, 100, or 1,000 kids away from dogfighting, then our partnership with him would be worth it.'"

Maybe it's part of his community service.

The article doesnt say that that was all he talked about, or if he mostly gave a "stay in school" msg or what but the quoted kids are all talking about "Everyone deserves a second chance"...one kid even said 'second and third chances".

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Old 09-09-2009, 09:44 AM
 
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Michael Vick spoke to young impressionable minds yesterday. I have a problem with a liar and dirtball talking to kids.
Yet some parents liked what he said..

Esperanza students, parents like what Vick had to say | Philadelphia Daily News | 09/09/2009

The school could not get anyone else but a dirtball to speak with these students? Really?

Obama already gave his speech yesterday.
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Old 09-09-2009, 09:46 AM
 
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"Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of the Humane Society of the United States, told reporters outside the school: 'If Michael Vick can turn 10, 100, or 1,000 kids away from dogfighting, then our partnership with him would be worth it.'"

Maybe it's part of his community service.

The article doesnt say that that was all he talked about, or if he mostly gave a "stay in school" msg or what but the quoted kids are all talking about "Everyone deserves a second chance"...one kid even said 'second and third chances".


I wonder if the kids had to write down what they felt Mr. Vick was asking them to do?
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Old 09-09-2009, 09:47 AM
 
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Michael Vick spoke to young impressionable minds yesterday. I have a problem with a liar and dirtball talking to kids.
Yet some parents liked what he said..

Esperanza students, parents like what Vick had to say | Philadelphia Daily News | 09/09/2009

The school could not get anyone else but a dirtball to speak with these students? Really?

Who better to tell kids "don't screw up and make dumb decisions like I did."

Schools have people speak to kids all the time about things to avoid. For some reason, when you tell your kids about safe sex they hear about 15% of it but when a 15 year old mother comes in with a baby on her hip that number jumps to at least 50.

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Obama already gave his speech yesterday.
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I wonder if the kids had to write down what they felt Mr. Vick was asking them to do?
I wonder why you aren't capable of posting without talking about Obama and we're supposed to be the ones who are obsessed...yeah okay
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Old 09-09-2009, 09:48 AM
 
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"Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of the Humane Society of the United States, told reporters outside the school: 'If Michael Vick can turn 10, 100, or 1,000 kids away from dogfighting, then our partnership with him would be worth it.'"

Maybe it's part of his community service.

The article doesnt say that that was all he talked about, or if he mostly gave a "stay in school" msg or what but the quoted kids are all talking about "Everyone deserves a second chance"...one kid even said 'second and third chances".

How about if a humane society volunteer or worker addressed the students instead of a criminal? Michael Vick is sorry about one thing- getting caught. If he did not get caught he would still be leading dog fighting rings. It is completely inappropriate to have him speak to students about any subject matter. There are a thousand other speakers those students could have heard that day and Michael Vick is chosen...
Sorry that boggles my mind.
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Old 09-09-2009, 09:50 AM
 
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Who better to tell kids "don't screw up and make dumb decisions like I did."

Schools have people speak to kids all the time about things to avoid. For some reason, when you tell your kids about safe sex they hear about 15% of it but when a 15 year old mother comes in with a baby on her hip that number jumps to at least 50.





I wonder why you aren't capable of posting without talking about Obama and we're supposed to be the ones who are obsessed...yeah okay
So this is the education and society we have become- having millionaire athletes who committed crimes influencing our young students?
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Old 09-09-2009, 09:51 AM
 
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Obama already gave his speech yesterday.
Well part of my point in starting this thread was there was outrage about the President speaking to students but a criminial speaks to students and people are happy about that?

Kind of backwards I think.
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Old 09-09-2009, 09:52 AM
 
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How about if a humane society volunteer or worker addressed the students instead of a criminal?
Same thing as a cop telling kids not to do drugs.....most won't really listen. When you bring in a recovering addict who talks about what it did to his/her life, what it took to get over it, etc. it has a tendency to resonate more.
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Old 09-09-2009, 09:52 AM
 
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Obama already gave his speech yesterday.
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How about if a humane society volunteer or worker addressed the students instead of a criminal? Michael Vick is sorry about one thing- getting caught. If he did not get caught he would still be leading dog fighting rings. It is completely inappropriate to have him speak to students about any subject matter. There are a thousand other speakers those students could have heard that day and Michael Vick is chosen...
Sorry that boggles my mind.
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So this is the education and society we have become- having millionaire athletes who committed crimes influencing our young students?
Because it's a different message when it comes from someone whose actually done it. A speech from a person who was strung out on drugs and lost everything is different from your principal telling you to never use. A speech from an ex-con is different than a speech from a prison guard. A speech from someone with HIV is different than a speech from a doctor.

I'm not sure why that is - maybe because when you're a kid and someone tries to tell you something the first thing that pops into your head is "yeah right, what do you know about it"
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Same thing as a cop telling kids not to do drugs.....most won't really listen. When you bring in a recovering addict who talks about what it did to his/her life, what it took to get over it, etc. it has a tendency to resonate more.
Exactly.
Again, this has been done for years - I don't know why some people are suddenly surprised that this happens.
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