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Old 09-10-2009, 08:29 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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That's because Hillary is more of a man than Obama
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:30 AM
 
Location: here
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And...just because he says it isn't true, we should believe him, even with a bill that contradicts his assertions?

So basically what you are saying is everything that comes out of obama's mouth is truth, he doesn't have to provide any evidence, we just need to believe what he says.
the bill is out there for you to read yourself, but you won't. That is your own problem.
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Old 09-10-2009, 09:26 AM
 
Location: On Top
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If you watch the video, Obama almost did, he turned, pointed, and then had to pause...
Yes the pause turned into a very stern stare, if looks could kill Wilson would be a dead man now.
Oh yes and he did point at Wilson directly, the President handled it with class!
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Old 09-10-2009, 10:38 AM
 
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Handled it with class and lied anyway, got to have his way.
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:15 PM
 
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Well if not passing health care puts to rest, once and for all eternity, the argument that this is a Christian nation and should be guided by Christian values, then maybe not having national healthcare isn't all that bad.
Although there may have been a time in my life when I would have said the U.S. was primarily guided by Christian values, you have not heard me say this of late. A national health care pyramid scheme based on theft and lies has nothing to do with Christian values. It has more to do with a socialistic Robin Hood philosophy.
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Over There
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He shouldn't accept ideas from the republicans at all.
Even good ideas.
or he's a suckup.

Wonderfully logical.
Never said that but when while Obama was campaigning he was against everything McCain had to say but now he is all of a sudden agreeing. A bit hypocritical.
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Old 09-10-2009, 12:48 PM
 
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Handled it with class and lied anyway, got to have his way.
The only liars in congress last night were the congressmen who sat there with a "open mind" but had made up their mind that Obama's plans were pathetic before Obama had even started his speech.
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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More lies exposed from obama's speech;

Obama's Lies Matter, Too: The president pushes back against health care misinformation, then spreads a bunch of his own. - Reason Magazine

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The lies last night began in Obama's opening paragraph. "When I spoke here last winter," he began, "credit was frozen. And our financial system was on the verge of collapse." In fact, Obama spoke on Feb. 24, at least six weeks after credit markets began to thaw, and one week after he proclaimed that the passage of his $787 billion stimulus marked "the beginning of the end, the beginning of what we need to do to create jobs for Americans."
Very good, in depth analysis.
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Old 09-10-2009, 09:34 PM
 
Location: 48205
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President Obama did an awesome, simplistic, but thorough, job of explaining health care reform; addressing, refuting and dispelling EVERY myth, lie, rumor and misconception about the issue. He did so in a diplomatic, mature, fair, patriotic and impartial manner. Even when the Republican senator from South Carolina rudely, disrepectfully, ignorantly and inappropriately shouted out and accused President Obama of lying, he maintained his composure, calm poise and diplomacy. President Obama's disposition and momentum never changed. He was captivating and mesmerizing. As a matter of fact, he was so clear and concise, it angered the Republicans. Their disdain, evil and jealousy against/of the President were evident on their faces. I, personally, learn a lot from watching President Obama. When I reflect over the adversity, racism and hatred he endures being a WORLD leader, while consistently performing excellently, it makes me stronger and even more resilient in facing challenges and racism in my life. Because of his example, I'm able to place things and situations in their proper perspectives. It's because President Obama is trying to do the "right" thing and represent the interests of everyone that he faces so much opposition. Many people are jealous of him because he's a reflection of what they aren't and probably never will be. I'm proud of President Obama and all his successes and achievements in the short time he's been President, especially considering the enormous mess he inherited from the previous administration.
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