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09-11-2009, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by checking out
Typical.
One question: What makes someone deny the obvious?
Is it wishful thinking, forcing one's will, some sort of voodoo or just plain stupidity?
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Most people are confused, as this is a scientific issue- not a political one. |
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09-11-2009, 08:15 AM
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With any regression line, there are always outliers. One of the best ways to "lie with statistics" is to take any two points on a regression line and show they don't follow the pattern.
If you don't understanding regression lines, I suggestion a inferential statstics course.
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Higher math has been omitted from the discourse of Americans... few understand it and almost all of them have long since given up trying.
We be gettin' dumber and dumber as da' years gone by. And so it is that point in history when you can sell just about anything to the masses as long as you've got a bright smiling face and nice tone of voice. |
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09-11-2009, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Geechie North
Most people are confused, as this is a scientific issue- not a political one.
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Ain't political issues founded in some sort of fact?  |
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09-11-2009, 08:18 AM
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Ain't political issues founded in some sort of fact? |
As a Poly Sci (undergrad degree) major, I can say that is sometimes the way it is, but not always. |
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09-11-2009, 08:40 AM
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Here's what NOAA actually says
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Originally Posted by NOAA
Global surface temperatures have increased about 0.74°C (plus or minus 0.18°C) since the late-19th century, and the linear trend for the past 50 years of 0.13°C (plus or minus 0.03°C) per decade is nearly twice that for the past 100 years. The warming has not been globally uniform. Some areas (including parts of the southeastern U.S. and parts of the North Atlantic) have, in fact, cooled slightly over the last century. The recent warmth has been greatest over North America and Eurasia between 40 and 70°N. Lastly, seven of the eight warmest years on record have occurred since 2001 and the 10 warmest years have all occurred since 1995.
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09-11-2009, 08:45 AM
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This subject is very political since Al Gore made a fortune with it showing his movie to as many students as he could...many scientist lost their jobs when the openly said the Global warming was b.s. and they could proof it...I saw a program on tv in which 3 scientist (all fired) spoke openly against global warming with good explanations why they had the opinion they had!
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09-11-2009, 08:51 AM
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NOAA - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration - NOAA: Summer Temperature Below Average for U.S.
But, we're supposed to be warming, right?
Oh! I forgot - whether we warm or freeze, it's all part of climate change. Before, the phrase Global-Warming just didn't pass the giggle test, especially with snow in July.
Now, we can encompass all extremes of temperature under one big umbrella. That makes it easier for the alarmists so they don't have to answer questions of why their prophesies are not coming to fruition.
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We had 43 days in-a-row that were below the normal average temperature through June and July, and the previous two years have been below normal temps. At some point, cold weather eventually turns into climate, right? Or was the ice-age not a cold climate, and just a long period of cool weather? |
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09-11-2009, 08:55 AM
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The peak was in '98, the average temperature since then has dropped. There's some education for ya...  So the question is does downward slide continue? |
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09-11-2009, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by bentlebee
This subject is very political since Al Gore made a fortune with it showing his movie to as many students as he could...many scientist lost their jobs when the openly said the Global warming was b.s. and they could proof it...I saw a program on tv in which 3 scientist (all fired) spoke openly against global warming with good explanations why they had the opinion they had!
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Again, not accurate:
Scientific consensus has been that GW is real and man-made ever since the mid-90's.
Nobody losdt their jobs for NOT saying this, some did, however, under Bush II for saying it. |
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09-11-2009, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by thecoalman
The peak was in '98, the average temperature since then has dropped. There's some education for ya... So the question is does downward slide continue? |
Like I suggested, take a basic Env. Science course.
Your premise is silly. |
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