Rep. Wilson Outburst Leads Senate Dems to Close Loophole in Health Reform Bill (speech, September 11)

[roysoldboy]

Originally Posted by sanrene

Matthew Yglesias » Baucus, Conrad Team Up to Surrender to Joe Wilson



Now, why would that inflame the Left?

Because they were caught. They knew all along that the language was there to allow illegal aliens participation.

Darned right they knew that and they intended to use it later. I guess truth in advertising doesn't apply to Congressional laws.

[sanrene]

I just donated to Joe.

[blackandproud]

Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC

Sweet heavens. You come at me with English 101 regarding quotes and then you don't even include the actual quoted sentence from Sen. Conrad?

This is a lost cause trying to tell you something. You keep taking it into the weeds, so i'll spell it out one more time for you.

1) Quotes. From Democrats. Senator Conrad to be specific.
2) Read that quote
3) Process that quote in your brain
4) Come back and tell me what he said.

(In case these instructions are not sufficient, i'll summarize: After Joe Wilsons outburst, Senator Conrad stated that they went back to the drawing board to add language that includes proof of citizenship.)

Senator Conrad said this. This is not a quote from the author of the article.

I feel like i'm a 2nd grade teacher today for some reason.

considering that was the only grade level you apparently completed. I copied and paste the ENTIRE paragraph from Time, no editing (something you would do) THE ENTIRE PARAGRAPH. If you like the author are going to paraphrase, make sure you paraphrase correctly.

Here is the DIRECT FROM TIME PARAGRAPH AGAIN. Here i even color coded it for you so you could TRY TO FOLLOW ALONG.

RED - CONRAD STATEMENT
GREEN - COMMENT FROM THE EDITOR.


"We really thought we'd resolved this question of people who are here illegally, but as we reflected on the President's speech last night we wanted to go back and drill down again," said Senator Kent Conrad, one of the Democrats in the talks after a meeting Thursday morning. Baucus later that afternoon said the group would put in a proof of citizenship requirement to participate in the new health exchange — a move likely to inflame the left.

[helenejen]

Originally Posted by sanrene

Joe is a hero for putting obama on the spot and forcing the issue so the dems/libs can't sneak it in at the last minute.

Did you just call Joe Wilson and his unprecedented bad behavior a HERO on today of all days?

[roysoldboy]

Originally Posted by dcsldcd

God liberals cannot admit anything, ever! Joe Wilson made MILLIONS aware and they were looking into it. hussein obama and his criminal administration could no longer lie to the public. Once again the citizens put hussein obama in his place.


GO JOE WILSON!

You are right but how could anybody prove which lie The One told Wilson was talking about. It was the piling up of lies that I think got the best of Wilson. It is very obvious the Dems knew that statement was lacking and needed to be included.

I have said that a half-truth is a lie and that speech was full of that kind of lie.

[blackandproud]

Originally Posted by roysoldboy

You made a demeaning statement about those who watch Fox and I just took it for granted that you aren't one of them. I see that you don't know about the events that Fox is reporting about those ACORN offices and their lies. Maybe you need to start watching Fox now and then to keep up with this kind of thing since others don't report these things.

It was reported on CNN and Morning Joe. Next.

[blackandproud]

Originally Posted by roysoldboy

Do you agree or disagree about illegal aliens and equality? I couldn't put your statement with mine and understand which you were saying.

I'm going to take that explaination as true and not that your one of those who read with combative eyes. But I agree with you. If they are here illegally, they should not have equal rights. There are folks in this country that went about it the right way.

[AeroGuyDC]

Originally Posted by blackandproud

considering that was the only grade level you apparently completed. I copied and paste the ENTIRE paragraph from Time, no editing (something you would do) THE ENTIRE PARAGRAPH. If you like the author are going to paraphrase, make sure you paraphrase correctly.

Here is the DIRECT FROM TIME PARAGRAPH AGAIN. Here i even color coded it for you so you could TRY TO FOLLOW ALONG.

RED - CONRAD STATEMENT
GREEN - COMMENT FROM THE EDITOR.


"We really thought we'd resolved this question of people who are here illegally, but as we reflected on the President's speech last night we wanted to go back and drill down again," said Senator Kent Conrad, one of the Democrats in the talks after a meeting Thursday morning. Baucus later that afternoon said the group would put in a proof of citizenship requirement to participate in the new health exchange — a move likely to inflame the left.

So you agree, Conrad and Baucus went back to add the proof of citizenship language AFTER they initially rejected 5 previous amendments requiring such proof, and AFTER Joe Wilson called Obama out for lying on the issue?

Do you honestly think they just HAPPENED to do this today as a matter of due diligence, and not because of the attention that has been brought to the issue as a result of Joe Wilson?

It must be fun living in Fantasy Land. I'm not sure why you defend the defenseless, but I guess someone has to do it.

[blackandproud]

Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC

So you agree, Conrad and Baucus went back to add the proof of citizenship language AFTER they initially rejected 5 previous amendments requiring such proof, and AFTER Joe Wilson called Obama out for lying on the issue?

Do you honestly think they just HAPPENED to do this today as a matter of due diligence, and not because of the attention that has been brought to the issue as a result of Joe Wilson?

It must be fun living in Fantasy Land. I'm not sure why you defend the defenseless, but I guess someone has to do it.

Why don't you come out of that fantasy world then...My goodness you've been in there too damn long. But again, keep giving Republicans a pat on the back for doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

[sanrene]

"We really thought we'd resolved this question of people who are here illegally, but as we reflected on the President's speech last night we wanted to go back and drill down again,"

It's called "covering your a**".

They intentionally left the loophole in there, hoping no one would notice in a tome of 1100 pages, when obama was called out, they had no choice but to change it.