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Old 09-11-2009, 01:05 PM
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Yeah they are so ignorant they got that loophole closed like they wanted hahahahaha
Senators said that's forced the committee to work on provisions verifying legal status before an individual can get coverage.

"We've always been there, but we have to make sure to get the right process and language," said Sen. Olympia Snowe,
R-Maine, one member of the so-called Gang of Six of three Republicans and three Democrats whom Baucus is leading.

Baucus, Conrad Cave To Joe Wilson On Health Care Bill

To think there must have been some diabolic plot is a bit of a stretch... Even Snowe (R) stated that both sides agreed that illegal immigrants should not have access to the public option it was just getting the wording down right...
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Old 09-11-2009, 01:05 PM
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Now, why would that inflame the Left?

Because they were caught. They knew all along that the language was there to allow illegal aliens participation.
Actually, that one statement is very curious to me. I have no idea why it would inflame the left, it certainly doesn't inflame me. I don't believe that illegals should receive government sponsored health care.

That being said, I do believe that the Dems caved again, since I certainly interpreted the original wording to exclude illegals from receiving care, just as they are excluded from receiving Medicaid, etc.


And, how does adding citizenship qualifications to this 'option' end the current situation whereby illegals are currently treated in ERs at costs subsidized by those of us with private insurance.
Since I strongly doubt that illegals will apply for the government option, how do we keep them from being treated?

Do we tell hospitals to let people die on their sidewalks?

Do we pay to ship them 'home' for treatment and hope for reimbursement?



Just wondering.
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Old 09-11-2009, 01:07 PM
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Sure we can admit to something and that is for the most part that Repugs are ignorant...

Let's see, you swallow hussein obama's lies and we call him out on them and you call us the ignorant ones? LOL

Left wingers are filled with confusion, indoctrination and propaganda brain dead.


hussein obama and his criminal Democrat administration got there azz kicked by Wilson and the good citizens of this country and were forced to do the right thing.
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Old 09-11-2009, 01:08 PM
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Senators said that's forced the committee to work on provisions verifying legal status before an individual can get coverage.

"We've always been there, but we have to make sure to get the right process and language," said Sen. Olympia Snowe,
R-Maine, one member of the so-called Gang of Six of three Republicans and three Democrats whom Baucus is leading.

Baucus, Conrad Cave To Joe Wilson On Health Care Bill

To think there must have been some diabolic plot is a bit of a stretch... Even Snowe (R) stated that both sides agreed that illegal immigrants should not have access to the public option it was just getting the wording down right...

Don't bombard them with facts. If they want to believe that the bi-partisans wording is due to Joe Wilson, let them go right ahead. Heck, they've been getting paid to do nothing all this time, might as well let them keep doing it.
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It was reported on CNN and Morning Joe. Next.

And just how did they report on ACORN? With their usual lying liberal spin? I will have to watch and see if they have realized they're losing all their viewers.
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Let's see, you swallow hussein obama's lies and we call him out on them and you call us the ignorant ones? LOL

Left wingers are filled with confusion, indoctrination and propaganda brain dead.


hussein obama and his criminal Democrat administration got there azz kicked by Wilson and the good citizens of this country and were forced to do the right thing.
*LOL* Sorry, but Republicans don't get anything that the Democrats aren't willing to give.
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Don't bombard them with facts. If they want to believe that the bi-partisans wording is due to Joe Wilson, let them go right ahead. Heck, they've been getting paid to do nothing all this time, might as well let them keep doing it.



This bears repeating: Left wingers are filled with confusion, indoctrination and propaganda brain dead.
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Old 09-11-2009, 01:12 PM
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This bears repeating: Left wingers are filled with confusion, indoctrination and propaganda brain dead.
You are spouting propaganda while accusing others of being "propaganda brain dead"?
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And just how did they report on ACORN? With their usual lying liberal spin? I will have to watch and see if they have realized they're losing all their viewers.

Straight reporting. If you go onto CNN.com you will see it there as well. There's no spin to give, get over yourself.
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You know your point would probably be valid except. THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED OVER AND OVER AGAIN AT TOWN HALL MEETINGS, IN THE MEDIA WHICH IS WHY THE PRESIDENT ADDRESSED IT IN HIS SPEECH AND STATED THAT HE WAS GOING TO HAVE WORDING ADDED TO THE BILL.

Go ahead keep pating your party of the back for taking credit for doing NOTHING.
There you go distorting the facts again. This is what Obama said:

"There are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false. The reforms — the reforms I’m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally."

He said NOTHING of adding language. He made that statement based on the single statement prohibiting federal dollars to illegals that was already in the proposed bills.

After reading your above posts, i'm beginning to think you haven't even seen the original statement in the bill. It's a one liner that leaves alot to be desired. Read it. And then read the Congressional Research Service report on how illegals can obtain federal coverage under the proposed reform.

I think you will begin to see the fallacy of your argument.
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