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You're wrong - up until all this rot began they were extremely valuable and necessary. They can still be valuable because such an outfit is still needed. They just need to apply their energies for good instead of evil, that's all.
The acorn-8 dot net website doesnt talk much about reform ideas and I dont see new ideas online googling "reform ACORN". But what a great opportunity!
I have to agree with you here. Reform has to start with exposing the corruption. Nothing can be effectively reformed until the corruption is addressed.
Will ACORN clean out the rot and corruption and get back to what it's supposed to be doing? That's what those "ACORN 8" mourned the loss of.
A claim that even they don't try to document. The so-called ACORN-8 is actually two former board members who exceeded the authority delegated to them and then lost an internal political battle but refused to accept the outcome. Disruptive behavior and the release of internal papers to the press followed. The balance of the 51-member board justifiably voted to oust them not just from the board, but from membership in the organization as well. They are now bitter outsiders seeking retribution. Their complaints do not go to program issues, but are over what they still see as governance issues, even though that same board has also voted the supposedly villainous Rathke's out. Through it all, ACORN continues to provide important services to low-income communities across the country. Hundreds of thousands of eligible voters have been registered. Hundreds of thousands have been made aware of and been able to exercise their housing and workplace rights and to access various rights and benefits that they are entitled to. Untold numbers of banks, landlords, and employers have been compelled to comply with laws they would rather have simply ignored. That's what ACORN does. That's what the loud-mouths oppose. Because the majority of those ACORN helps tends to vote for Democrats. That is the real and only issue for the right.
A claim that even they don't try to document. The so-called ACORN-8 is actually two former board members who exceeded the authority delegated to them and then lost an internal political battle but refused to accept the outcome. Disruptive behavior and the release of internal papers to the press followed. The balance of the 51-member board justifiably voted to oust them not just from the board, but from membership in the organization as well. They are now bitter outsiders seeking retribution. Their complaints do not go to program issues, but are over what they still see as governance issues, even though that same board has also voted the supposedly villainous Rathke's out. Through it all, ACORN continues to provide important services to low-income communities across the country. Hundreds of thousands of eligible voters have been registered. Hundreds of thousands have been made aware of and been able to exercise their housing and workplace rights and to access various rights and benefits that they are entitled to. Untold numbers of banks, landlords, and employers have been compelled to comply with laws they would rather have simply ignored. That's what ACORN does. That's what the loud-mouths oppose. Because the majority of those ACORN helps tends to vote for Democrats. That is the real and only issue for the right.
So nothing that exposed Acorn for what they are matters ?
LOLOLOL Why can't you admit it - ACORN has been caught, once to often, involved in, shall we say .... "questionable activities"?
No, silly euphemisms are not significant. What can you document from up there on your high horse that is barely a pony?
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ACORN will be going out of business - the sooner the better.
Well, I can easily understand how you -- as a man of the cloth -- would welcome the demise of groups that work for the interests of the poor while you tow your boat about in attempts to escape the needs of your flock. Very admirable, I'm sure. Just what that fellow Jesus would have done.
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OBTW - those, such as yourself, who even TRY to defend ACORN are the "Whackjobs"! LOL
I don't think you were ever really ON your rocker. You are certainly not sufficiently in the saddle to say anything intelligent about ACORN. Just more repetition of the same old manufactured right-wing schlock.
No, silly euphemisms are not significant. What can you document from up there on your high horse that is barely a pony?
Well, I can easily understand how you -- as a man of the cloth -- would welcome the demise of groups that work for the interests of the poor while you tow your boat about in attempts to escape the needs of your flock. Very admirable, I'm sure. Just what that fellow Jesus would have done.
I don't think you were ever really ON your rocker. You are certainly not sufficiently in the saddle to say anything intelligent about ACORN. Just more repetition of the same old manufactured right-wing schlock.
And not one point of your post was in defense of Acorn. So far to the left that you do not like to agree with the opposition no matter what the cost.
Example, Last year they registered Santa Claus and Mrs. Claus to vote.
You do know what the phrase "registered to vote" means, do you not? Can you point to any jurisdiction anywhere in which Santa Claus and Mrs. Claus were registered to vote? No, I didn't think so.
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