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Old 09-11-2009, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Kentucky/ Displaced Texan
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It is 3 years away my friend A LOT can happen in that time. Look how Obama came from no where and look where he is now.

I have to agree, three years is alot of time. President Obama's approval rating has taken a tumble, it shows he is human after all.

I always say no matter the party it's not always the best if it dominates congress and the Presidency. To many Liberal Ideas can shift the country right, too many Conservative issues shift the country left. People can say the GOP is dead but it's all almost a cycle.
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:13 PM
 
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Between the attempt to demonize Sonia Sotomayor, using "illegal" aliens as the whipping boy for opposition to national healthcare policies, and calling the first African American President of the United States a racist, fascist, and the unprecedented display of a white Republican Congressman from South Carolina calling his a liar, how do you suppose you will enlarge the base of your party?

I really not interested in debating the truth or sincerity of these points of opposition, in fact I will stipulate for the purposes of this thread (and this thread only) that the charges are legitimate, what I am interested in are the realties of real life electoral politics.

In the last election Obama demonstrated that a non-white candidate can win the highest office in the land without winning a majority of the white vote. That fact will not diminish in the coming years or decades. Do you or the Republican Party understand how these attacks, as legitimate as they are (remember this thread only) resonate with hispanic and African American voters?

Do you care?

Obama is already enlarging the republican party. He is our number one recruiter. Also keep in mind that there will probably be the formation of a viable third party that promotes reduction in government and spending, reduced taxes, reduced social programs, and states rights. Obama is causing a strong reaction and perhaps the only thing he does well in his entire presidency will be to confirm the failures of socialism and result in a new party that gets back to traditional values, the constitution and restores sanity to the US. The libs can form thier own nation and starve when they no longer have working people to support their lazy asses.
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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I wonder what the obama supporters think of this; you are aware that the election really came down to 800,000+ votes;

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If you look at the states he won and by how much he won - it is nothing like the landslide the liberals claim.

FL - 238,000
NC - 14,000
VA - 250,000
OH - 260,000
In - 30,000

Switch those electoral votes - he loses.

A little more than 800,000 votes decided the election.
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Orange County
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I'm assuming your talking about the conservative white racist types like the officer in this photo right? The hate mongering police. This argument amazing. Hispanics,and blacks have been voting for your party for 50+ years and nothing good has come from it. We are not racist! I'm tired of this crap. All we can do is keep speaking the truth and one day the truth will be heard. Hopefully the next 4 years will help crystalize this point even further. You have all major branches of government and nothing is going to change for minorities. Nothing, and I can only continue to pray that all Minorities and there leaders will become more independent minded and see what is truly happening in this country.

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Old 09-11-2009, 09:37 PM
 
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Between the attempt to demonize Sonia Sotomayor, using "illegal" aliens as the whipping boy for opposition to national healthcare policies, and calling the first African American President of the United States a racist, fascist, and the unprecedented display of a white Republican Congressman from South Carolina calling his a liar, how do you suppose you will enlarge the base of your party?

I really not interested in debating the truth or sincerity of these points of opposition, in fact I will stipulate for the purposes of this thread (and this thread only) that the charges are legitimate, what I am interested in are the realties of real life electoral politics.

In the last election Obama demonstrated that a non-white candidate can win the highest office in the land without winning a majority of the white vote. That fact will not diminish in the coming years or decades. Do you or the Republican Party understand how these attacks, as legitimate as they are (remember this thread only) resonate with hispanic and African American voters?

Do you care?
I care about the truth.
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:37 PM
 
Location: east coast
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Default why is it always the race factor with the left

It seems that the left always bring race into a situation, always. It is their way to keep some of the people pissed. They figure if they keep calling the right racist and haters, the people on the left who don't really know any better, to believe it. When is the left going to base peoples actions on the actions they take rather than the color of their skin. I bet you that you will find more racist on the left than on the right.
If I see someone doing wrong or LYING, I will say something no matter who they are, what they are or what color they are. Bet on it.
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:40 PM
 
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Obama is already enlarging the republican party. He is our number one recruiter. Also keep in mind that there will probably be the formation of a viable third party that promotes reduction in government and spending, reduced taxes, reduced social programs, and states rights. Obama is causing a strong reaction and perhaps the only thing he does well in his entire presidency will be to confirm the failures of socialism and result in a new party that gets back to traditional values, the constitution and restores sanity to the US. The libs can form thier own nation and starve when they no longer have working people to support their lazy asses.
As a conservative, I wish you were right.
Obama Weekly Job Approval by Demographic Groups

It seems that majority of all income earners, from less than 2000/mo to 7500/mo continue to approve of his policies.
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:46 PM
 
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As a conservative, I wish you were right.
Obama Weekly Job Approval by Demographic Groups

It seems that majority of all income earners, from less than 2000/mo to 7500/mo continue to approve of his policies.

For Christ's sake- it is a Gallup Poll. I think that they also do polls showing that Pol Pot was just a good back to nature academic. Look at the source. It is like quoting Pravda, I mean the New York Times. Take a look at Rassmusen. Even Zogby, which is always left leaning, will give you a better answer.
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Dorchester
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So, in short you believe that the hispanic and African American vote is unimportant to Republican victories?
The Democrats tried to destroy both Clarence Thomas and Alberto Gonzalez yet how many Republicans screamed racism? Could it be that the Republicans actually have more respect for Hispanics and blacks. That they don't try to appeal to their baser instincts like the Democrats do. The Democrats are the true party of condescension
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:56 PM
 
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Default yassuh, boss! I bees happy heah on thu librul plantation!

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resonate with hispanic and African American voters?
These voters have traditionally been disenfranchised and bamboozled by the the promises of the left. With the election of Obama, they now have a legitimate stake in the political process. Once they begin to see the "trickinology' that democrats use to separate them from their wages they will get conservative, and real quick like.

Despite the left's efforts to marginalize the views of conservatives, black and hispanic voters aren't yours to command.
And it is the zenith of arrogance to think you can.
Keep whistling past the graveyard(your graveyard), you silly fool.
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