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Old 09-17-2009, 05:43 PM
 
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We'll just keep pointing out how moronic it is to bash an organization that can deliver services at 1/10th the price of their competitors.
And those who know what they are talking about will keep pointing out how moronic it is to defend an organization that has to cheat to be able to stay in business. It's easy to have lower costs when your competitors are prohibited from offering comparable service and in some cases have to pay you if customers choose not to use your service.
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Moving
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Default Actually IMHO the Post Office is fairly efficient!

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I for one am tired of people using the USPS for an example of a poorly run government service. The USPS has successfully operated for over 300 years providing our citizens with a very necessary service. The goal of the USPS is not to make a profit but to provide an affordable service. We all know that the services the USPS provide are an integral part of any private business or corporation. Even health insurance companies depend on the USPS to send their bills for high premiums, denial of claims, and rescission letters.




United States Postal Service - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I would not go over-board on the efficiency but IMHO the US Postal Service is the best in the World! But then again compared to what? The Postal Service of Italy?

However, when compared to over Government Run entities they are probably the most efficient. Especially more so than Social security and Medicare which are always going broke and have no money or direction. More so the Postal Service clearly does try to use innovative marketing practices and new technology whereas Medicare and Social Security are still using tech of the 1950's!

Lastly the US Postal Services is 100 times more dependable and honest than sad to say our Congress!
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Old 09-17-2009, 05:59 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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Why such right-wing vitriol against a government service mandated and established by our beloved Founding Fathers? They had no ideological problems with it.
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Old 09-17-2009, 06:11 PM
 
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Why such right-wing vitriol against a government service mandated and established by our beloved Founding Fathers? They had no ideological problems with it.
Yes Ben Franklin certainly was an innovator! However it was not until around the mid 1800's that the postal service became more accessible to the general public with the start of the Pony Express!
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Old 09-17-2009, 06:20 PM
 
Location: 3rd rock from the sun
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Yes Ben Franklin certainly was an innovator! However it was not until around the mid 1800's that the postal service became more accessible to the general public with the start of the Pony Express!
??? The Pony Express lasted only 17 months (1860-61) - as a fast mail service, operating under Post Office contract, between St. Joseph, Missouri & Sacramento, California - until it was replaced by the telegraph.
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Old 09-17-2009, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Washington DC
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And those who know what they are talking about will keep pointing out how moronic it is to defend an organization that has to cheat to be able to stay in business. It's easy to have lower costs when your competitors are prohibited from offering comparable service and in some cases have to pay you if customers choose not to use your service.
There is no service that the USPS provides that Fed Ex doesn't duplicate.
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Old 09-17-2009, 06:52 PM
 
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There is no service that the USPS provides that Fed Ex doesn't duplicate.
Really? Try sending anything, a letter, a package, anything- to a post office box via FedEx. They can not duplicate that service because the USPS prohibits them.

As for letter delivery, you are simply hiding behind the fact that the USPS prohibits anyone else from accessing your mailbox. Part of the service you pay for when you buy a stamp is the convenience of being able to leave the letter in your mailbox and have it picked up without you doing anything else. With FedEx and UPS you have to either call them to pick it up or take it to one of their locations. If they were allowed to access mailboxes they would be able to offer low priced letter delivery just like the USPS- and probably do a better job of it as they have with package delivery.

We have a postal monopoly because of a law passed when George Washington was president. We still have one because those who live in the town that bears his name have no interest in breaking it up. If George Washington were president today, he'd bust it into a million pieces. In his magnificent Farewell Address, Washington wrote "Even our commercial policy should hold an equal and impartial hand: neither seeking nor granting exclusive favors or preferences."

As for innovation- USPS merely copies the innovations developed by private competitors. Look at the history of delivery tracking. UPS and FedEx offered it almost 10 years before the USPS did, and even now it is a POS compared to what UPS and FedEx provide (delivery "confirmation" vs. actual tracking).
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Old 09-17-2009, 10:17 PM
 
Location: H-town, TX.
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I for one am tired of people using the USPS for an example of a poorly run government service.
Well, it is.

You don't get rid of those free change of address packets FULL of revenue-generating ad materials on the counters only to slap out leaflets full of ads referring me to usps.gov/umove while changing me a dollar to do so.

Don't give me that "better for the environment" shpiel, either. You don't use more paper to steer me to a website and say that with a straight face.
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Old 09-30-2009, 09:25 PM
 
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Look who's back in the news...

Post Office; Paying workers to not work - to the tune of $50 million a year

USPS worker stole over 3,000 Netflix DVDs

A $4 billion bailout for the Postal Service? - David Rogers - POLITICO.com

My, what an example of a well run government service!
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:31 PM
 
Location: SE Florida
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And what was thier excuses in 2007?
Manual labor such as clerks sorting mail manually because it was not properly addressed.

Manual sorting of packages.

Manual labor costs the USPS almost 60% of their budget.
I guess the rest goes to unjustifiable awards to their senior managers who would not make a dent on the outside because most are not educated.

After 34 years of service I do know the ifs ands and the buts of the USPS.
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