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Old 09-15-2009, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Avondale, Chicago
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I'm having a hard time seeing where this is coming from. Are we for or against the right to bear arms?

I'm very pro-Second Amendment, with everyone who is not a violent criminal reserving the right to carry a weapon.
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:48 PM
 
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The military and law enforcement communities are some of the most conservative communties in our country, and it shames me when other conservatives refer to them as "Obama's agents of socialism" or something along those lines.[/quote]

In realistic world wide used categories:

20 % of US population is left to far left
40% is center to center right
10% are conservative in the actual meaning of that term
30 % are far right
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Old 09-15-2009, 10:57 PM
 
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Fear the ideas of the men behind the guns, not the guns themselves.
i agree with hawkeye completely. knives don't kill people, guns don't kill people, people kill people. I believe that every person in America has the right to bear arms for self defense. My opinion on fully automatic weapons is a different matter because there is no need for that except during times of war. Wether people want to believe it or not, america is at war with itself. We are going to destroy ourselves regardless of wether or not people have guns. So if someone wants to walk the streets of south central LA carrying a fully automatic AR-15 gas powered assualt rifle, be my guest. Because in those neighborhoods it is every person for themselves. Its kill or be killed in our own country wether people want to realize it or not. TAKE CARE OF TERRORISM IN OUR COUNTRY FIRST, then worry about other countries. just look at these gangs... BLOODS, CRIPS, MS-13, LATIN KINGS and QUEENS, FOUR CORNER HUSTLERS, SURENO 13, and PALOS HOOD to name a small majority of them. Each of the ones ive stated have control over AT LEASY 3 FULL sq miles in their cities. and our government is too afriad to take care of that but they want to spend HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS on friggin health care and bailing out companies and banks who screwed THEMSELVES over on their own. It doesnt matter wether you vote republican/democrat/independant. WERE SCREWED! im moving to ireland in 2 weeks and im going to watch america burn, its not the way i wanted it but its the way it is.
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:02 PM
 
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I got really off subject and I apologize for it.
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Old 09-16-2009, 05:58 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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The military and law enforcement communities are some of the most conservative communties in our country, and it shames me when other conservatives refer to them as "Obama's agents of socialism" or something along those lines.
In realistic world wide used categories:

20 % of US population is left to far left
40% is center to center right
10% are conservative in the actual meaning of that term
30 % are far right[/quote]


While I agree with your assesment, I wonder how many of our Military and LE personal will say "I'm only following Orders" When kick your door in
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Old 09-16-2009, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Theoretically police and soldiers are not required to execute "illegal" orders. Determining the legality of a particular order is the problem.

Theoretically police and soldiers are not required to execute "illegal" orders. Determining the legality of a particular order is the problem.

Street gangs have to be handled as individuals because AFAIK our law does not have any provisions for prosecuting organized armed gangs. If we do we should be using them against the drug distributers instead of encouraging these gangs by failing to prosecute.
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Old 09-16-2009, 06:50 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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If recent history has any bearing whatsoever, the gun-toting group that should be most feared is the ATF which serves as the Gestapo wing to oppress dissenters...
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:02 AM
 
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In realistic world wide used categories:

20 % of US population is left to far left
40% is center to center right
10% are conservative in the actual meaning of that term
30 % are far right

While I agree with your assesment, I wonder how many of our Military and LE personal will say "I'm only following Orders" When kick your door in[/quote]

About 95 %-same as most places
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:26 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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While I agree with your assesment, I wonder how many of our Military and LE personal will say "I'm only following Orders" When kick your door in
When they kick my door in, I hope that the only thing they might get out is, "Help, I'm hit! *gurgle*"
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Old 01-04-2010, 06:16 AM
 
Location: 95468
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I fear the people who believe this fear-mongering tripe
Callin' something tripe or drivel is just lazy.
Or is that all you got?
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