U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 09-15-2009, 10:20 PM
 
Location: wichita
271 posts, read 202,764 times
Reputation: 132

Advertisements

You could not convince these tin foil hat head that the sun will rise tomorrow. They are a combo of racists and idiots. These are the same bunch that think that Oralee taint is a guru. Glenn Beck has become a TV preacher, telling the stupid flock that god said if he does not get ten million he will be called home, and the stupid send it in. Oh I forgot it is a "love give, love seed" LMFAO they deserve to be ripped off by the becks and the oral roberts of the world. The problem is that they are like drunk drivers, they don't just kill themselfs they take the innocent with them.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 09-15-2009, 10:20 PM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
25,223 posts, read 13,973,317 times
Reputation: 6465
your correct it might just be a poor analogy, but it was to make a point and sometimes you have to bring it down to the 5th grade level to get the point across

Aug 11 2009

GUADALAJARA, Mexico — Under fire from immigration reform supporters who say he’s not moving fast enough, President Barack Obama said Monday he expects to have a draft immigration bi More..ll in Congress by year’s end — but that lawmakers wouldn’t begin to seriously debate the issue until next year.

He acknowledged that the fight for comprehensive reform would be difficult, saying, “Am I going to be able to snap my fingers and get this done? No. . . . There are going to be demagogues out there who try to suggest that any form of pathway for legalization for those who are already in the United States is unacceptable.”

Obama also predicted that Congress would pass his health reform bill later this year when more “sensible and reasoned arguments will emerge” — a clear reference to the increasingly heated attacks being leveled against his overhaul plan by opponents.

Obama brushed back a suggestion from a New York Times reporter that the “blows” he’s suffering in the health-care debate would weaken him too much to take on another massive legislative fight on immigration reform heading into the 2010 midterm elections.
Immigration reform supporters have grown increasingly vocal in criticizing what some see as foot-dragging by Obama on the contentious issue — which President George W. Bush tried in his second term, only to see it fail and cause deep divisions within his own party. Obama’s comments Monday amounted to a firmer timetable than he has set down in the past and came at the end of a summit with his Canadian and Mexican counterparts here.
He spoke in similar terms about immigration and health reform, calling both a national imperative.

The expectations were low for Obama’s first summit with Mexican President Felipe Calderon and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper, and the three leaders met them.
As expected, they found common ground on combating a new surge in swine flu this fall, and they did, agreeing in a joint statement to build up public health capabilities and share information about the disease among the countries.

But they still did not reach consensus on lingering trade issues or an approach to rising drug cartel violence along the U.S.-Mexican border. Obama said the three leaders coordinated action on economic recovery. "We reaffirmed the need to reject protectionism," Obama said.

The Canadian and Mexican leaders came to Guadalajara with different grievances for the United States. But Calderon and Harper made their cases to Obama in meetings Sunday night and Monday morning.

During a one-on-one sit-down with Obama, Calderon raised concerns over delayed U.S. aid to Mexico for fighting drugs, as well as the ban on Mexican trucks in the United States.




fact is obama was DECEITFUL when he said no illegals would get federal money, when he plans on giving illegals amnesty
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2009, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
44,924 posts, read 28,123,641 times
Reputation: 4269
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenGene View Post
This isn't a terribly difficult concept ....

1. Congress has been working on several bills. None are final, but the text of one of the biggest, HR 3200, has been available for many weeks now. That may have been what Wilson was thinking about. But those are all the work of Congress, not the President.

2. The President's words - "The reforms I'm proposing ..." - he's not talking about any specific wording already present in anything Congress may have written. He said "I'm proposing" - first person, present tense.

But the House action today wasn't about what Wilson said - it was his classless behavior in heckling a President during an address to a joint session of Congress. A member of Congress misbehaved; Congress rebuked the member; life goes on.
Several members of the House did the same thing at the SOTU in 2005 but then that was Bush and Dems feel that was called for. There is no difference at all, since he was making a speech to a joint session that is required by the Constitution. The one that caught Wilson was nothing of the sort. Just another of the Obama campaign type speeches.

He said something about what he is proposing and we still don't know anything he is proposing.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2009, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
44,924 posts, read 28,123,641 times
Reputation: 4269
Quote:
Originally Posted by talbet View Post
You could not convince these tin foil hat head that the sun will rise tomorrow. They are a combo of racists and idiots. These are the same bunch that think that Oralee taint is a guru. Glenn Beck has become a TV preacher, telling the stupid flock that god said if he does not get ten million he will be called home, and the stupid send it in. Oh I forgot it is a "love give, love seed" LMFAO they deserve to be ripped off by the becks and the oral roberts of the world. The problem is that they are like drunk drivers, they don't just kill themselfs they take the innocent with them.
How many times have you watched Beck? I vote zero because you sound like the rest of those who don't watch him but take talking points from blogs and fire them back in attacks on him.

Why don't you fire back some of the idiotic things he has said about ACORN so you can prove that you really know what I say you don't know? I know why and so do you.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2009, 10:45 PM
 
Location: Keonsha, Wisconsin
2,480 posts, read 2,868,412 times
Reputation: 575
Quote:
fact is obama was DECEITFUL when he said no illegals would get federal money
Federal Money? Oh, we thought he was speaking about illegals receiving health care from the fed! It's interesting how the right wing likes to twist things to their own meaning! Watch out folks! The administration is going to give federal $$$$ and not healthcare. So, Wilson is a stump!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2009, 10:52 PM
 
Location: 15 months till retirement and I can leave the hell hole of New Yakistan
25,223 posts, read 13,973,317 times
Reputation: 6465
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hombre57 View Post
Federal Money? Oh, we thought he was speaking about illegals receiving health care from the fed! It's interesting how the right wing likes to twist things to their own meaning! Watch out folks! The administration is going to give federal $$$$ and not healthcare. So, Wilson is a stump!
guess you are having trouble FOLLOWING THE THREAD

"""""SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENSNothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States"""""


this is ONE of the bills being PROPOSED, yet obamy is also proposing an AMNESTY....see the DECEIT
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-15-2009, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
30,390 posts, read 20,026,742 times
Reputation: 8319
Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiRob View Post
no Obama didn't lie and he is a member of Congress and should have shown respect towards our President despite politics!
My parents would have whipped my butt if I ever disbehaved in such fashion!

OK, now hold on a second MiamiRob, I have to explain something to you. See, lying is when you say something that isn't true and you know it isn't true when you say it. Sometimes people are misinformed and say something that isn't true but aren't trying to deceive anyone. They just don't know they are wrong. So it's not really lying. What BO does just about every time he opens his mouth is the other kind. See MiamiRob, our POTUS is a pathological liar. He doesn't feel that inner sense of guilt and nagging self-dispare that we feel when we lie. For him, lying just comes naturally; he does it all the time. For example, last year when both candidates returned to DC to deal with the financial meltdown that years of bribery by the GSEs to resist oversight reform caused, and knowing that Senator McCain had given an impassioned speech and co-sponsored S.190 to address the very danger that caused this catastrophe, BO still blamed Bush and McCain for the crisis he and other Democrats created. That is an example of lying. Today, when BO says illegals won't be covered, he realizes that isn't true.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-16-2009, 12:01 AM
 
Location: PNW
693 posts, read 650,569 times
Reputation: 159
Holy crap! Rebuked...not rebuked. Anything but rebuked. Don't do it again...or we'll rebuke you again. What a bunch of childish cr*p. What a waste of a work day. And this coming from someone who disagrees with what he said even though people talked smack about Bush constantly.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-16-2009, 01:48 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
4,708 posts, read 7,702,664 times
Reputation: 1029
Quote:
Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost View Post
While people should have moved on since he apologized to the President, he should have been man enough to do so in person. But, time to move on and focus on real issues.

Wilson seems to think that he only transgressed respectfulness to the President, when he also transgressed respectfulness to the House of Representatives of which he is a member. That's why Pelosi insisted that he apologize on the House floor. When he refused to do so, they carried out the formal rebuke.

Congrats, Wilson. You are the first U.S. Congressman to be formally rebuked by your peers for disrespectful conduct directed at the President during a joint session of Congress.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 09-16-2009, 04:05 AM
 
Location: Keonsha, Wisconsin
2,480 posts, read 2,868,412 times
Reputation: 575
Quote:
Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
guess you are having trouble FOLLOWING THE THREAD

"""""SEC. 246. NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENSNothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States"""""


this is ONE of the bills being PROPOSED, yet obamy is also proposing an AMNESTY....see the DECEIT
The dubya admin. proposed amesty too, duh. Federal Payment means reimbursement for medical expenses. Which means, no federal aid for illegals, which means, wilson is an idiot and resides at the liars party of NO.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top