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Old 09-16-2009, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I guess, by driving more fuel efficient cars, I trade my blood for our soldiers' who are forced to fight in the middle east to keep the oil supply going.

I will do that, anyday.
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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Now I get, Obama plans to get those old folks killed by making them drive small cars instead of using the death panels. That makes sense.
Maybe the master plan is to get the cars down to a small enough size that they will double as a coffin, thus saving additional resources..
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Chicago Suburbs
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I guess, by driving more fuel efficient cars, I trade my blood for our soldiers' who are forced to fight in the middle east to keep the oil supply going.

I will do that, anyday.
A shining example of hyperbole 101
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Complete nonsense!

Getting car companies to commit to manufacturing higher MPG cars is a way to get more people to drive sensibly sized cars like Honda Accords, and less to drive gas guzzling SUVs like Hummers and Ford Expeditions.

It will also push American car manufacturers to improve gas technology, which has hardly moved in the past 50 years. Cars were getting 20 mpg back in the 1970's.



SUVs have been classified as trucks in the past and were therefore immune from the CAFE standards that apply to cars, so it's apples and oranges.

Much of what is done to control NOx reduces efficiency in traditional internal combustion gasoline engines. Aside from that, we have done pretty much everything we can to improve the efficiency of gasoline engines with four valves per cylinder, centerally located spark plugs, manifold tuner valves that alter intake runner lengths, variable cam timing, variable displacement, sequential port injection and advanced electronic engine and transmission controls. The problem for us now is that we are simply running into the fundamental laws of physics. Further gains in efficiency are possible but Al Gore would never approve becaue these same measures would increase the traditional automotive emmisions of HC, CO and NOx.

Find out what cat food is, hug your favorite tree, then get back to me about pushing auto manufacturers to "improve gas technology".
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I guess, by driving more fuel efficient cars, I trade my blood for our soldiers' who are forced to fight in the middle east to keep the oil supply going.

I will do that, anyday.

Forced?

The draft is back?
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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A shining example of hyperbole 101
Reality sucks.

The middle east debacle started in 1950s, largely a result of killing a successful democracy in Iran. And that too was for oil, wasn't it? If not for our thirst for oil, would you tell me why have we meddled with politics in the middle east for several decades now? It should be easy for so called "conservatives" to explain it.

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Forced? The draft is back?
Did you think soldiers declared wars on their own and flew on their own to fight?
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Forced?

The draft is back?
Actually it is. Sort of. Haven't you seen the notices in the Post Office about men 18 and over being required to register?

H
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:18 PM
 
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Our friend has a smart car---little stupid looking car. My hubby asked what kind of mileage he got and he wasn't that much far from what out car gets. Our mid-size SUV that holds a lot of luggage and more people if we take someone with us so we don't need to take two cars. IMO it's all smoke and mirrors.

We have another Carter in the White House but at least Carter didn't live the high living life style like jetting all over for a date with his wife. He was more sensitive to the recession. He was willing to sacrifice when he asked the public to do the same thing, not Obama.
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:19 PM
 
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When have liberals ever been squimish about a little death when they get what they want?


(DDT banning killed millions in Africa but the libs love it!)

Nothing new here but it is true. Libs have long advocated trading blood for burning less gas!
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:20 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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I guess, by driving more fuel efficient cars, I trade my blood for our soldiers' who are forced to fight in the middle east to keep the oil supply going.

I will do that, anyday.
Nonsense. We have no soldiers in the Middle East. Obama promised that, if he were elected, he would get them all out by six months after he took office. Remember?

Would he lie?

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