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Old 09-18-2009, 02:47 PM
 
Location: The Valley of the Sun, Arizona
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I believe every profession should be capped.
How can you believe what you wrote and believe in Freedom - basic freedom?
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Keonsha, Wisconsin
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I was wondering what the public thinks a physician should make per year. This is not loaded by any means and was just curious. Let's generally break up primary care and specialists, with a specialist being a cardiologist or neurosurgeon. Keep in mind that there is 4 years of college, 4 years of medical school, and three to nine years of additional training after med school for residency and fellowships. Also the work week is 60-90 hours a week, depending on call sharing and clinic hours. Most of the "no call" docs have 50 hours a week baseline time in the easy jobs.


Any thoughts? Obviously, ZERO is not a reasonable response.

Primary care?


Specialist?



I will check it out tonight- took the day off to watch high school golf. That is my first day off in 6 months.
As much as they can or wish to, and the easy ones twice.
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:50 PM
 
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How can you believe what you wrote and believe in Freedom - basic freedom?
It's fairly obvious he doesn't.
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:50 PM
 
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Making money on others dying is simply immoral. It goes above and beyond "capitalism".

We are the only post-industrial country on the planet that people routinely die from very curable disease. That is an outright joke and an embarrassment.
Technically, funeral directors and embalmers make money from other dying. Doctors make money helping people to survive.

The comment about being the only country where people die routinely is outrageous......do you have stats to back that up?

You haven't answered my question - what do you do for a living?
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:51 PM
 
Location: The Valley of the Sun, Arizona
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They might be willing if the cost of medical school is greatly reduced, or free, and the fixed amount is at a point where the time investment is justified, and the whole malpractice issue is fixed.
Let me ask you this: If you believe Med school should be "free", who do you expect to pay for the classrooms, the equipment, the professors, the internships etc., etc., etc.,????? Do you think these are free also?
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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I'm not sure how to respond to such ignorance.
You have no ability to. I will shoot everything you attempt to say down.

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I DO love the comment on pharmaceutical companies though. Yeah, I'm sure they're holding off on curing cancer because of the money involved. Just like they didn't find vaccines for polio, the flu, etc.
How many cures have pharmeceutical companies actually developed? Ill give you a few to stew in that one. However, I bet you can name about 700 expensive medications developed to treat "symptoms".

The polio vaccine was developed by Jonas Salik, who did most of his research through Universities and non profits.

There still is no cure for the flu, although, pharmeceutical companies are good at selling "shots" which arent 100% effective, nor do they combat all strains. Better yet, you have to keep getting them for them to be effective at all. Sounds like dollar signs to me. Ironically, the first research in to flu vaccines was also done by non profits, by the way.


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It's sad how many people are stuck in this little utopia and have no grasp of history, science or the way the real world functions.
Have no grasp of history? This coming from the person who thought the USSR "limited" incomes? Lol. Get real Jack.
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Old 09-18-2009, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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How can you believe what you wrote and believe in Freedom - basic freedom?
Capitalism is economic slavery. I am opposed to capitalism, and therefore, support ACTUAL basic freedom.
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Old 09-18-2009, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Salary envy should be ignored.
Anyone should be able to make as much as they want salary wise.
If someone gives them that much money then so be it.
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Old 09-18-2009, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
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Let me ask you this: If you believe Med school should be "free", who do you expect to pay for the classrooms, the equipment, the professors, the internships etc., etc., etc.,????? Do you think these are free also?

The government should assume all associated costs for education. However, they should also limit what professions are taught and who gets in as well.

I imagine, the amount of money the federal government spends on secondary education would fall tremendously.
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Old 09-18-2009, 03:03 PM
 
Location: The Valley of the Sun, Arizona
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Capitalism is economic slavery. I am opposed to capitalism, and therefore, support ACTUAL basic freedom.
Actually, you believe in oppression.

Since the beginning of this nation, individuals have had the right, the freedom, to earn as much as they legally can - to establish whatever lifestyle they want to - yet you suggest to take away those rights - those freedoms.
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