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Old 09-19-2009, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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You know, I really don't care right/left, repub/democrat, con/lib, elephant/donkey, red/blue, whatever side anyone is on. However, what annoys me is the number of people in this topic that absolutely refuse to just acknowledge that Fox news outright got their information wrong and instead go off on some other tangent. Just simply say, alright, ok, someone goofed. Are you really that far gone that you believe that people never make mistake?

Regardless of who made a mistake or what party it's affiliated with, you should at least have the hindsight to realize that Fox goofed up here. It's like everyone here has their own agenda and they feel like admitting to a fallacy will totally break their backs on it.

Fox messed up here. I'll go ahead and say it because apparently that's so difficult to do. It's what the OP's post was about. Not on viewer statistics, who the journalists are, or what their favorite breakfast cereal is. How about we all grow up and act like adults. Stop crowding behind little computer screens trying to bash each other for dumb reasons.
Oh please. This is a news organization. How do they get this wrong by accident? All they had to do was watch the TVs in their building tuned to the competition. That ad wasn't created by one misinformed person working in a vacuum, others higher up on the organization chart would have had to sign off on an ad as expensive and visible as one that ran in
The Washington Post, The New York Daily News and The Wall Street Journal. This is no "mistake", it is more of Fox's misrepresenting the truth, in other words, lying.
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:50 PM
 
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Well, since Fox News won a law suit by presenting the defense that they are NOT a news organization but an entertainment organization and were not, therefore, required to tell the truth, they have certainly proven that the truth is of no importance to them at all. Which makes it all the more sad that so many people have taken their "entertainment" reporting so seriously.
Another false accusation.
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Old 09-19-2009, 06:55 PM
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Oh please. This is a news organization. How do they get this wrong by accident? All they had to do was watch the TVs in their building tuned to the competition. That ad wasn't created by one misinformed person working in a vacuum, others higher up on the organization chart would have had to sign off on an ad as expensive and visible as one that ran in
The Washington Post, The New York Daily News and The Wall Street Journal. This is no "mistake", it is more of Fox's misrepresenting the truth, in other words, lying.

I didn't say it was an accident. An accident and a mistake are two different things here. They knew well what they were doing. All media organizations know good and well what their competition is up to or else they'd be fools.

Don't put words in my mouth and don't read into my post more than it really is. Jeeze people.
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:03 PM
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Another false accusation.
Wow such a knowledgeable response:
Jane Akre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'll even summarize it since you don't like to read facts:
  1. Couple worked for FOX.
  2. Couple refused to air false information in news story.
  3. Couple fired by FOX.
  4. Couple sues under Florida whistle-blower law and won a settlement.
  5. FOX appealed and won based on FCC policy against falsification that FOX violated was just a policy and not a "law, rule, or regulation", and so the whistle blower law did not apply.
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Reading, PA
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I didn't say it was an accident. An accident and a mistake are two different things here. They knew well what they were doing. All media organizations know good and well what their competition is up to or else they'd be fools.

Don't put words in my mouth and don't read into my post more than it really is. Jeeze people.
Ok, if that's what you meant, though from your comment that someone "got their information wrong" and "goofed" I thought you meant it was an accident, not that they knew what they were doing and made an error in judgment type of mistake. Didn't mean to put words in your mouth or read anything into it, seemed pretty straightforward to me. Guess I was wrong.
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Good for Rick!! Of course, Glenn Beck will now go after Sanches for being a socialist anti-American.
And what else is Sanchez? That is what I have always thought he was so I guess in my mind Beck would be right.

Actually Beck doesn't have time to play around with Sanchez.
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:25 PM
 
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And what else is Sanchez? That is what I have always thought he was so I guess in my mind Beck would be right.

Actually Beck doesn't have time to play around with Sanchez.
You know what, roy? Rick Sanchez is a Cuban American. His parents FLED Cuba after Castro took over. And YOU think Sanchez is a "socialist anti-American"? OMG! Your imagination is definitely running away with you these days. Rick Sanchez was a news anchor on one of the Miami television stations for a long time before he went to CNN! No, roy, I don't think Sanchez is a socialist.

You have let Glenn Beck take over your brain, and, roy, I'm certain that you are much smarter than Glenn Beck. Try to get your mind back.
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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How much did you watch ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC or CNN on that Saturday or the next Sunday morning? I watched MSNBC -- a posted about their coverage at 10:30 AM. I also watched CNN that day and CBS, NBC, MSNBC and CNN the next day. All those networks properly covered the event, at least by the standards of a reasonable person. Tell me what you saw on any one of those networks that indicated they didn't "properly" cover it.



Why? Because the Right Wing Rabble Rousers made something out of nothing. Van Jones quit to end the craziness. The funding was denied to just put an end to the ACORN hysterics. There was no story in either place but the rabble was roused and the only way to shut them up was make a change, just like that stupidity about paying doctors for appointments for patients to discuss end of life treatment. It's like arguing with a drunk: reason never wins, to make it stop you just have to walk away.

But you rely on Fox???

The elitist comment was in response to your announcing that you didn't know who Sanchez is. So what? Just because you don't know who he is doesn't mean he isn't reliable.

And, oh by the way, you have issues with networks not reporting news or ignoring news? Let's not forget how most of the news outlets beat themselves up for not being better journalists and buying the Bush Administration's song and dance in the run up to the Iraq war. The truth was out there but very few were reporting on it. When the truth started to come out, there were all sorts of mea culpas. Were there every from the Great Truth Speakers at Fox? If there were, I never heard about it.
But you watch all those other channels and never Fox. How would you expect to hear about all those things when you watch MSLSD all the time.
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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You know what, roy? Rick Sanchez is a Cuban American. His parents FLED Cuba after Castro took over. And YOU think Sanchez is a "socialist anti-American"? OMG! Your imagination is definitely running away with you these days. Rick Sanchez was a news anchor on one of the Miami television stations for a long time before he went to CNN! No, roy, I don't think Sanchez is a socialist.

You have let Glenn Beck take over your brain, and, roy, I'm certain that you are much smarter than Glenn Beck. Try to get your mind back.
No, girl it was some Miami residents I saw talking about Sanchez. I grew to hate the SOB before I was allowed to watch Beck on Fox. Sorry, but he is not what you think except to other lefties like you.
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I read about the Russians scrapping their missile defence system after they heard we scrapped ours in Poland.

However, I did not see FOX mention anything about it. Does this mean they MISSED it? Did they FAIL to report it?

I wonder about that, because they did not miss the opportunity to criticize Obama for scrapping the US missile shield.
You don't watch Fox so how could you see them mention that? I caught it at Fox and it had to be there because I don't watch the rest. Hmmmm, I think you just threw yourself a curve and failed to hit it.
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