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Old 09-21-2009, 07:10 PM
 
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This is what it is all about.
Palestinian-Israeli Conflict For Beginners
Palestine Remembered, al-Nakba 1948-*פלשתינה-فلسطين في الذاكرة
There were those who denied the holocaust because they didn't want to believe it. This is what is happening now to the Palestinians.
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:25 PM
 
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This is what it is all about.
Palestinian-Israeli Conflict For Beginners
Palestine Remembered, al-Nakba 1948-*פלשתינה-فلسطين في الذاكرة
There were those who denied the holocaust because they didn't want to believe it. This is what is happening now to the Palestinians.

do you think the Israelis are slowly exterminating the Palestinians, do you think they have gas chambers or concentration camps that no one knows about?
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:36 PM
 
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I'm confused - I thought Palestinians and their supporters (most notably Mamoud Achmidinajad) belive the holocaust was a hoax?

So just what are you comparing the current situation to?


At anyrate, Palestine may not have the death toll that Israel has, but you have to understand - the world does not look kindly to suicide bombers these days. The (non radical muslim) west does not think suicide bombers are noble, martyrs or brave. We think they and those that encourage them are cowards of the worst sort and really deserving to be shot on sight.
Palestine will never win the hearts and minds of the west - and our governments - while still engaging in this type of barbaric behavior. Ever.
Especially when there are reports on how fundementalist islam has stooped to raping women so that they will have no other choice but to blow themselves and others up in order to 'clear' the family honor. Granted, that is Iraq but still - suicide bombers share a mindset and that mindset is pretty damn sick.

Take the long view - you will win. Blow yourselves and innocent bystanders up and you get nothing but derision and Israel gets the sympathy.


Btw....did you see the report on Hamas using its jails for political benefit? Hardly the scion of the middle east now is it?

Two human rights groups on Monday decried widespread mistreatment and torture in Palestinian jails — an issue taking on fresh urgency with a new round of mass arrests over the weekend in both in Hamas-run Gaza and in the Fatah-controlled West Bank.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25886908/

It doesn't sound like the Palestinians need Israels help in destroying themselves.......
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:37 PM
 
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There is a poster on this thread using the library of fake Hamas hate videos (some also from neo-nazi sites). They're all over cyberspace. Just a few examples here. It's a shame the forum is so abused.
http://www.lesjones.com/2009/01/08/c...e-hamas-video/
Little Green Footballs - Fake Anti-Israel Video Posted at Liveleak
CNN Shows Hamas Propaganda with Fake CPR | Crimson Politics
Confederate Yankee: Pro-Hamas Doctors Caught Faking A Civilian Death... After CNN Airs Footage
U.S. Politics - Topics - Hamas Using Fake Photos.
Little Green Footballs - A Staged Scene in a Gaza Hospital? - Update: CNN Yanks Video
Hamas’ Fake Martyr Scam : Israellycool
Palestinian's Hamas Lies (2003) - Video
Pro-Hamas Doctors Caught Faking A Civilian Death... After CNN Airs Footage - Jihad Watch
LOL- Funny Video showing Palestinian Fake News and how its made, page 1
FactsOfIsrael.com: Fake Palestinian Funeral

In fact, an entire industry has sprung up. It's called Pallywood. The Second Draft
Israel has an organization in place the purpose of which is to distort the truth and facts on internet in order to promote their propaganda!

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Nazareth. The passionate support for Israel expressed on talkback sections of websites, internet chat forums, blogs, Twitters and Facebook may not be all that it seems.

Israel’s foreign ministry is reported to be establishing a special undercover team of paid workers whose job it will be to surf the internet 24 hours a day spreading positive news about Israel
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Rona Kuperboim, a columnist for Ynet, Israel’s most popular news website, denounced the initiative, saying it indicated that Israel had become a “thought-police state”.

She added that “good PR cannot make the reality in the occupied territories prettier. Children are being killed, homes are being bombed, and families are starved.”
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The Israeli army also had one of the most popular sites on the video-sharing site YouTube and regularly uploaded clips, although it was criticised by human rights groups for misleading viewers about what was shown in its footage.
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The new team is expected to increase the ministry’s close coordination with a private advocacy group, giyus.org (Give Israel Your United Support). About 50,000 activists are reported to have downloaded a programme called Megaphone that sends an alert to their computers when an article critical of Israel is published. They are then supposed to bombard the site with comments supporting Israel.
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“If these people are misrepresenting who they are, we can guess they won’t worry too much about misrepresenting the groups and individuals they write about. Their aim, it’s clear, will be to discredit those who stand for human rights and justice for the Palestinians.”
Internet warfare team unveiled

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Old 09-21-2009, 07:47 PM
 
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Wowser-

Do you not realize that Israel could have conquered the entire Middle East if they had wanted to do so? They routed the combined armies of the Arab states, who would have capitulated if pressed. Thier armies were in ruins.

The Israelis have been extremely easy on the Arabs and have only recieved torment in return.

It is shocking and hateful to refer to Israel as a Nazi state, given thier past. Shame on you.
But that is what makes it so shocking. After suffering as they did at the hands of the Nazis, they are now acting exactly the same way!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-21-2009, 07:54 PM
 
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do you think the Israelis are slowly exterminating the Palestinians, do you think they have gas chambers or concentration camps that no one knows about?
They are slowly exterminating the Palestinians not with gas chambers but by imprisoning them in poverty and inflicting violence.

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Well over half of nearly 1,400 Palestinians killed in Israel’s Gaza war were civilians, including 252 children younger than 16, a leading Israeli human rights groups said Wednesday, challenging Israel’s claim that most of the dead were militants.
1,400 Palestinians killed in Israel’s Gaza war were civilians, including 252 children younger than 16 | Hot Indie News
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:01 PM
 
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Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land: Media & the Israel-Palestine Conflict Video

This video clearly explains the entire situation there.

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Old 09-21-2009, 08:03 PM
 
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Quoted - I don't think the Zionists here will have an answer for this. There's really no justification but the Jewish lobby in D.C is so strong we'll never cut off taxpayer money for Israeli warcrimes.
I, along with all other decent people. are so tired of israel's atrocities, but they have such a stranglehold on the media here I am afraid nothing can be done.
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:06 PM
 
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Wrong. They were given the chance for a Jewish state to have a minority of the population but 52% of the land with a 48% Palestinian 'minority' who did not want to become part of a Jewish state and were not considered.
What I stated was correct. What you stated above is confusing at best

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Jews have always sought to maintain their homogenous nature, the very same behavior which they fight and reject when White people try to do it.
What the hell are you talking about?
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Old 09-21-2009, 08:11 PM
 
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My question is; if Israel is in the right, why do they need to go to these lengths and extremes to get people to believe it?

War 2.0, Propaganda 2.0 or Public Diplomacy 2.0: The Role of Internet and Mobile in Israel’s Gaza Strip Bombing | Gauravonomics Blog (http://www.gauravonomics.com/blog/war-20-israel-uses-internet-and-mobile-propaganda-in-gaza-strip-bombing/ - broken link)
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