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Germany is very successful in their efforts to be energy independent. The people there are obviously way more responsible, unselfish, aware and educated than here.
World’s largest solar power plant being built in eastern Germany
40-megawatt project near Leipzig a milestone on the road toward a 100% renewable energy supply
Obviously!! That's why the U.S. has the best research universities in the world, by far the highest GDP, with the highest - by far - private per capita expenditure in charities, highest rates of volunteering per capita...because we are so irresponsible, selfish, unaware and uneducated.
There has been a proposal of a huge solar facility in the desert of southeast California that is constantly fought by left leaning tree huggers. I don't know what they worry about but it must be some kind of lizard or something like that.
Yep, the Germans are very much better than we are in all those ways you mention although they don't manage to outdo us, even with help from us.
I think it is that old socialist mentality that brings on that kind of talk from our people.
As usual and duly noted from the left, Americans are the scourge of the planet
And who's acting like a teen with their massive carbon footprint date nights?
RIght, and Michelle My Belle with her obnoxious shopping trips to the farmers market when she could just send one of her many aides. Or the $100 per lb colby beef Obama eats. Guess those cows didn't add to the "carbon footprint."
The Bush administration was also known to serve Kobe. Big deal.
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But it’s difficult to rival the spread that the White House is laying out for Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi at an official dinner tonight. The menu includes Texas Kobe beef with cracked black pepper ****ake mushroom jus. Bush, thanking the Japanese leader for starting to import U.S. beef after fears of also importing Mad Cow disease, told him in the East Room today: “I think the Japanese people are going to like the taste of U.S. beef.’’
When Secretary of Energy Steven Chu thinks of the American people, he apparently sees a bunch of unruly teenagers who need to be told how to act.
Asked at a seminar on reconstructing America's electrical grid about the Obama administration's efforts to persuade people to conserve energy, Chu said “the American public…just like your teenage kids, aren’t acting in a way that they should act. The American public has to really understand in their core how important this issue is,” according to The Wall Street Journal.
Obama energy secretary to Americans: Stop acting like teenagers! | Washington Examiner (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obama-energy-czar-to-you-Stop-acting-like-teenagers-60057097.html - broken link)
Is this the guy who wants you to paint your roof white?
Wants to control the thermostat inside your home?
Wants to control when you turn on your dishwasher?
Thanks, pop. Can you get me the number for the "child" abuse hotline?
yea, what you said. Also, turning down the temp in the Oval office from the balmy 80 something degrees in winter in order to remind him of Hawaii might be a nice gesture, seeing people are losing their jobs.
Can you supply us with a list of the people who fight nuclear power in the US? You may be very surprised if you try to work one up.
Ralph Nader's Critical Mass Energy Project, Greenpeace, Sierra Club, wait a second, Musicians United for Safe Energy? I'm shocked. The vast majority of anti-nuke groups are grassroots, environmental organizations who would rather see people die than harm a minnow. I'm sure that there are those opposed to nuclear energy that I would agree with on many subjects but that's what happens when people are free thinking and not narrow minded. Ok, bring on the "gotcha" moment, the anticipation is killing me.
yea, what you said. Also, turning down the temp in the Oval office from the balmy 80 something degrees in winter in order to remind him of Hawaii might be a nice gesture, seeing people are losing their jobs.
Did you deliberately ignore the fact that Kobe has been served in the White House by previous admininstrations?
Where is the link showing that the temp as being kept at 80 to remind him of Hawaii? Is that just suposition?
Germany is very successful in their efforts to be energy independent. The people there are obviously way more responsible, unselfish, aware and educated than here.
World’s largest solar power plant being built in eastern Germany
40-megawatt project near Leipzig a milestone on the road toward a 100% renewable energy supply
Sounds great until you find out what the cost is, that plant is a 40 megawatt plant and based on a cost of $130 million Euro (about $200 million) we can figure out what we're getting for $200 million. Matter of fact there is quite a large plant about 1/4 the size being built near me for about the equivalent cost adjusted for output and since I'm familiar with it I'll cite those numbers....
Note this is from last year:
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Solar Cells Info » Massive solar plant proposed in Carbon County, Pennsylvania
Yesterday, Curtis and state officials announced a $65 million solar project on 100 fallow acres in one of Carbon County’s oldest mining towns, Nesquehoning. It would generate 10.6 megawatts of power, enough to increase the state’s current solar output by a factor of 10 and provide electricity for 1,450 households. If he gets the money.
I believe the number of 1,450 homes is under optimal conditions. The next thing we need to know is for how long. Doing a little research you'll find most solar cells slowly degrade over time and have lifespan of about 30 years, I've seen numbers cited as long as 50. The lease this company has for this plant would indicate that as they have 30 year lease with two 10 year options.
For arguments sake we'll give what I think is more than fair estimate that this plant will be able to power 1,500 homes for 40 years, sound fair?
The average household in the US spends about $1000 a year on electric. It would take 43 years at today's rates just to pay for building the plant. It may not even be there in 40 years. To that we still need to add the maintenance costs and other costs that will be incurred over those 40 years AND the people who invested in it are certainly going to want to see a return on their money.
The only reason this plant is being built is because of the subsidies it will receive. No investor in their right mind would go anywhere near it otherwise.
Now you know why we don't build massive solar plants, any other questions?
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