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I don't think so. Because, contrary to what some people would like the masses to believe, those issues do not affect blacks, exclusively.
I never said they were exclusivity in black communities that is you talking. I simply said that perhaps it would be best to try and find out why the problems exist and try to correct them.
you know Dora I don't need to answer all your uestion because the proof is right out there for anyone with eyes to see. Has any woman gotten married that has had a baby out of wedlock? Of course BUT like it or not the absense of black men hanging around to take care of their children is a HUGE problem in the black community, affirmed by blacks. It's their problem, not mine other then the effects on society. While it is also a big problem among all races here, blacks have it the worse. No one or nothing is responsible for this problem except themselves.
In many cultures around the world "fathers" aren't expected to hang around and raise the children. You're viewing the world through your narrow white point of view, expecting everyone else to conform to your standards.
In many cultures around the world "fathers" aren't expected to hang around and raise the children. You're viewing the world through your narrow white point of view, expecting everyone else to conform to your standards.
Really what culture does not expect the fathers to actually raise their children?
Really what culture does not expect the fathers to actually raise their children?
How about the African American culture right here at home. You know, the one you people keep complaining about because it doesn't conform to WASP standards of what the "family" is supposed to look like. Why is the white values always viewed as the right values?
How about the African American culture right here at home. You know, the one you people keep complaining about because it doesn't conform to WASP standards of what the "family" is supposed to look like. Why is the white values always viewed as the right values?
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In many cultures around the world "fathers" aren't expected to hang around and raise the children.
So I asked you what culture actually does NOT expect the fathers to stay around and raise their children. So what you are trying to tell me is that the African culture does NOT expect the fathers to help raise the children? So the African community is perfectly fine with men making babies but leaving the woman to raise them? Is this what you are saying?
Recently in a neighborhood adjacent to mine, there was a small birthday party for an 18 year-old girl. At around midnight a group of late teens/early twenties men crashed the party. They were allowed in for awhile. Eventually one of the young men made an unwanted advance toward one of the partygoers and were subsequently asked to leave.
Words were exchanged and the commotion moved outside. The young men got into their car drove away but then pulled back up in front of the house.
By this time the birthday girl was in an upstairs window hanging out of it and made the egregious error of telling the young gentlemen to "keep walking".
The driver pulled out a handgun and blasted away. One of the bullets struck the birthday girl below the collarbone. She walked downstairs in a confused state looking for help when she collapsed and died.
So I asked you what culture actually does NOT expect the fathers to stay around and raise their children. So what you are trying to tell me is that the African culture does NOT expect the fathers to help raise the children? So the African community is perfectly fine with men making babies but leaving the woman to raise them? Is this what you are saying?
I'm not trying to minimize the role of fathers, but it always annoys me when people act as though children can't be successfully raised in situations outside of the "traditional" family. I'm not going to dig up literature, but it's true that many cultures have family structures that don't revolve around a father, mother, and 2.5 kids. There are also situations where one parent can't be involved. My father died of a heart attack when I was very young, it's not his fault or mine that he could not be there to raise me, but my extended family stepped in and provided my brother and I with a "different" family structure that helped raise us successfully. You also have lesbians who raise children successfully, and single mothers and fathers who choose raise children independently without the help of another spouse. I don't support dead beat dads (or moms), but I thinks important to understand that sometimes the father can't or won't always be there for their child, and that child can still be successful in life.
Sure whites also have problems but blacks have far more and are a lower percentage of the population. If backs are geting more press it is because they are doing things to keep them in the press. It's up to them to clean up their own and they should start with black men who abandon their children at alarming rates.
I couldnt agree more. I saw a statistic somewhere something like 33% of black children live in 2 parent households. How appalling.
On a daily baisis, Black Americans (as a group overall) in the U.S.; unlike any other minority group, must deal with negative press coverage, fingerpointing and criticism from (many, but not all ) White Americans about the many social problems affecting black communities, particularly within the inner-cities; such as high:
- Un-employment rates
- Murder statistics
- Drug abuse and distribution
- Poorly performing schools and high drop-out rates
- AIDS
- Teen pregnancy and single parenting
- Black male incarceration
- Overly aggressive police and police brutality
Certainly, Black communities has its share of problems. But, does White America (as a group) have any similiar type of social problems or are white people free from social problems in U.S. society?
A good question. But you won't really find much in the way of answers. Why? Because the US racializes it's social problems. The problems that you listed are in actuality social problems that afflict America. But when those problems are racialized they cease being social problems and become racial problems. So in relation to the situation referred to by the OP, the question doesn't become : What's wrong with American culture and how can these social problems be remedied? The question becomes: What's wrong with black people?
A few posters have shown some insight into this question by alluding to class. And they are to a large extent correct. But one must be careful not to overlook racism. The history of the US is such that you cannot talk about issues of class without including racism. Why? Because racism was invented to mitigate class antagonisms.
A good question. But you won't really find much in the way of answers. Why? Because the US racializes it's social problems. The problems that you listed are in actuality social problems that afflict America. But when those problems are racialized they cease being social problems and become racial problems. So in relation to the situation referred to by the OP, the question doesn't become : What's wrong with American culture and how can these social problems be remedied? The question becomes: What's wrong with black people?
A few posters have shown some insight into this question by alluding to class. And they are to a large extent correct. But one must be careful not to overlook racism. The history of the US is such that you cannot talk about issues of class without including racism. Why? Because racism was invented to mitigate class antagonisms.
Racism was invented?
How do we stop this? pls tell.
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Racism was invented?
