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Old 09-23-2009, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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True. California and NY are the economic powerhouses of the US.

If the liberal states did split up from the conservative states. The conservative states would fall into major poverty.
Yup ... from North Dakota, all the way down to Texas would be about as poverty stricken as the Saudi's are ..


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Old 09-23-2009, 09:30 PM
 
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I think the liberals would try to sneak into the conservative side to enjoy a better quality of life.
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:32 PM
 
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I think in twenty years the liberals would be sitting by the stream singing kumbaya waiting for the Warlocks to eat them. Come to think of it, when do we split?
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:32 PM
 
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... The USA has a HUGE population of hardcore Christians, they are just as hardcore as the Muslems of Saudi Arabia or Pakistan. Lets give them their own country. Let them have a little "Christian paradise". Get them out of the way and let them do their own thing.
Disagree that our population of the truly hardcore types is "huge" but do agree that they are much alike the radical Sunni's, Shia's, and Taliban types. Since their religion has biblical roots in ancient Mesopotamia or Babylonia (now part of Iraq) and the so-called Holy Land, let's have them carve out their own homeland in Iraq with a subset in Israel, should be fun to watch, eh. Won't be long before they join the Iranians in murdering gays, reducing women to sex slaves and property, all that good old biblical stuff.
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Since the conservative states are mostly southern and southwest, what would you guys do with your black and hispanic populations, once you were in charge? Just curious.
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:33 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Per capital is worthless. We need per unit data. And where did I mention red or blue? Every American regardless of affiliation needs to pay up.
You didn't say it by state line is the most logical way to split up a country. (Without having hundreds of millions of people relocate)

And unit? You mean person? FWIW, in the 2008 presidential election, the $50k+ and the $100k+ vote was split down the middle between Obama and McCain. Obama won the under $50k
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:34 PM
 
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say what?

Oh boy, you sound like a troublemaker for sure.
Since you must be aware that the republican party doesn't have a plan, a man, or a woman to lead, just sit back and watch them self-destruct.

And, if we want to, we can make that little place which the US already owns, guantanomo, a state, and we could ship the repubs down there, (with or without) they'll have their own little space to govern, isn't that a great idea now?

Just how do you know that all liberals are into drugs, hoes, universal health care, and everything that you might think are liberal values? I know some republican adulterers too, don't you?

Please define B.S., is it anything like the 8 years before President Obama?
Now, that was some B.S. allright! I'd rep you, but you're too separatist.
Those "conservatives" who are into hookers and drugs will have a rude awakening when they realize that a truely socially conservative country severely limits those freedoms.

I can see that the Republican party is faltering. But you're kidding yourself if you think that they will self-destruct. The democrats were in disarray 5 years ago and now look what's happened? That's how this system works it will shift back and forth forever.

I just think breaking up this country is the best way to make everyon happey and create a utopian society. Living in a polarized society with two different cultures that absolutely hate each other is not really that great.

American Chistians should be given their own land. Just like Israel, they can have their little piece of the world to live.

Israel is the land for Jews. Much of the Middle East is for the Muslems. The Christians do not have their own land. Let's give it to them. They obviously want to live a very different lifestyle than non-religios people, lets give them a place to do it.

The US needs some kind of revolution.
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:38 PM
 
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They did that once already. The country was called the United States.
Yeah well. The USA is now full of non-Chrstians, it's time to split it up again. During the push West into California in the 1800s, the entire fabric of the USA changed.

We have acquired a LOT more land since the USA began. We have enough land to have 4 or 5 seperate countries no problem.
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:38 PM
 
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You didn't say it by state line is the most logical way to split up a country. (Without having hundreds of millions of people relocate)

And unit? You mean person? FWIW, in the 2008 presidential election, the $50k+ and the $100k+ vote was split down the middle between Obama and McCain. Obama won the under $50k
No. Per capita is worthless because a large number of people in California or new York pay zero taxes but still mathematically might appear to pay more per capita because of the number of very high earners in those states. Per unit is what each American actually pays. We need every American to start paying something.
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:42 PM
 
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Disagree that our population of the truly hardcore types is "huge" but do agree that they are much alike the radical Sunni's, Shia's, and Taliban types. Since their religion has biblical roots in ancient Mesopotamia or Babylonia (now part of Iraq) and the so-called Holy Land, let's have them carve out their own homeland in Iraq with a subset in Israel, should be fun to watch, eh. Won't be long before they join the Iranians in murdering gays, reducing women to sex slaves and property, all that good old biblical stuff.
Exactly. If the Christians had their own country with Christian canon as the law it would resemble Muslem laws and culture in many ways.

I say let them do it. I'm sick of listening to them. They can have the South. "The South shall rise again" can come true.
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