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i'm not sure where i stand on the issue, but the argument against getting a permit is that there is no reason that people should have to get a permit from the government to dissent and exercise their constitutional right to assembly. last night there was a protest in a park that was broken up and attacked by police simply for being there. no violence, no property destruction, no blocking traffic. well actually the police blocked traffic pretty effectively.
maybe summers73 is right, you are pretty statist when it suits you!
and the only property destruction that occurred was at unpermitted marches (and according to the police, it was almost all done by one person). there were dozens of permitted marches that went without a hitch, including one that was comprised of 4500-10,000 people and lasted for hours.
How do you know they violated the rights of "peaceful" protesters?
According to the videos, those "peaceful" little anarchists didn't listen to the police, committed acts of vandalism and at one point did not have a permit.
The constitution protects the rights of people to protest in public forums. The most traditional public forum as defined by the courts is the public sidewalk, so you don't need a permit to protest on a sidewalk. Most of the kids in this video were on a sidewalk or actually on their own campus. I can understand if the police are keeping them from blocking traffic or something, but this video shows that the police went too far.
Some good p0rn for the statists. Maybe if the military gave the police enough toys, they can circumvent that annoying Posse Comitatus leftists like sanrene hate.
This whole thing makes me sad. I see a bunch of delusional, young, anarchists taking on the "big bad gov't", destroying other people's property and ruining their chances of ever finding employment once they get a felony conviction. The sad thing is that drugs may be fueling the paranoid and delusional thoughts. Yes, our gov't is not perfect, but please put down the bong so we can have a sober and productive discussion as to how to fix our nation's problems.
This whole thing makes me sad. I see a bunch of delusional, young, anarchists taking on the "big bad gov't", destroying other people's property and ruining their chances of ever finding employment once they get a felony conviction. The sad thing is that drugs may be fueling the paranoid and delusional thoughts. Yes, our gov't is not perfect, but please put down the bong so we can have a sober and productive discussion as to how to fix our nation's problems.
So rather then have a productive discussion you will accuse anyone who protests of being a doped up anarchist? Pretty lame Ad Hominem.
How do you know they violated the rights of "peaceful" protesters?
According to the videos, those "peaceful" little anarchists didn't listen to the police, committed acts of vandalism and at one point did not have a permit.
The police used ultrasonic devices that can deafen people and tear gas. Just like when the National Guard shot at crowds of students who were protesting at Kent State, innocent people got caught in the middle. Just collateral damage I guess.
and the only property destruction that occurred was at unpermitted marches (and according to the police, it was almost all done by one person). there were dozens of permitted marches that went without a hitch, including one that was comprised of 4500-10,000 people and lasted for hours.
There were 60+ arrests - obviously not done by just one person.
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