The Rage of the Right (dictators, votes, senator, patriot)

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Originally Posted by IWonderWhy1

The title of this thread attracted me - and out of curiosity, I have read through all the posts.

What I have come to feel is, those who are Barrack Obama supporters, and there are many, are upset at those who are criticizing the various .... "things" that Obama is trying to do. They are upset that those who oppose Obama are vocal in their dissension. They do not like it when the vocal opposition get attention.

But, more than anything else that I have gleaned from this thread, is the Obama supporters clearly want those who oppose Obama to shut up. They, the Obama supporters, would love nothing more than to stifle the speech of the opposition. They would like to preclude the rights of free speech of that vocal group who opposed Obama.

And that, to me, is scary. It is scary that ANYONE would even think about limiting one of the most precious rights we have in this country - the right to FREELY dissent.

Anyway, that's what I have come away with from reading this thread.

That is interesting since hearing the full gamut of BS my concusions are as follows: the extreme right were making stupid claims BEFORE Obama was president led by an Alaskan Hillbilly. Sadly I would have considered McClain if he had not changed after the primaries and p/u that half wit Palin. The Extreme right have a very short memory BUSH was not a legit president only b/c of the crap that went on in florida but I don't blame him entirely the weak azz dumbocrats are a part of that also. I don't hate Bush and as far as I'm concerned for all that it is worth the AMerican people got what they deserve after voting for him TWICE! My heart/blood/sweat/tears go out to to the 4000 brave men and women who lost their lives over and illegal war while Bush and his cronies (who by-the-way never served in the military) got richer. In retrospect all of you Extremist need to look in the mirror b/c Obama would have never became president if Bush and the boys did not screw up so badly in the first place! While I'm at it when was the last time a "c" student got into a IVY LEAGUE SCHOOL! This in itself proves that he was never the brightest bulb in the box! One more thing, since you extremist think so highly of your fearless leader Bush, why did'nt he attempt to fix healthcare when he knew that it was messed up then? B/c his cronies in the insurance companies gave him alot of $upport not to (like they are doing now to prevent any change to their profit margin). Why were'nt war profiteers charged? B/c they sat in his administration (cheney, haliburton). You people who defend Bush must be rich b/c they are the only ones who did well during his administration. Personally Obama is a much bigger man than I b/c instead of trying to work with the repubcants I would do to them what they did to the dumbocrats...push what I want and the hell with them...OOOPS! can't do that b/c he has too many backstabbing self interest, don't give a damn about america, racist (yes I said it) azzwipes posing as dumbocrats. As I often said before WE NEED A LEGIT THIRD PARTY!

[Hombre57]

I really lost no love for dubya, but I for one never wished his death, imprisonment for lying and war crimes, but never death. If you repubs will pardon my previous post, maybe I should have stated, not all liberals wished death to dubya. I'm sure there were some who did.

Reasoning dangerous? No, it's just the truth.

blatant personal attack? no, just a generalization of right wing fanatics.

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I think that someone Murduck is the lustermind behind the separation of this country and he is'nt even an American! Some of you are listening to the drones of FAUX News which is owned by an Austrailian. Some of you are letting an outsider deface our president with garbage. Talk about getting your strings pulled

[Danno3314]

I have to listen to no more "rage" now from the right, than I did from the left during the last administration. Both parties have their share of extremists that make a lot of noise and by no means represent the majority of either party (but, they seem to think they do along with their opposition, who tries to paint the picture that they do).

[Hombre57]

Originally Posted by Danno3314

I have to listen to no more "rage" now from the right, than I did from the left during the last administration. Both parties have their share of extremists that make a lot of noise and by no means represent the majority of either party (but, they seem to think they do along with their opposition, who tries to paint the picture that they do).

The right has more of it, incase you have not been paying attention lately. The right is full of lies, trying to derail any policy making efforts by the Obama administration, it is called obstructionism.

[sanrene]

How can the "right" obstruct anything? They have no power, remember? You have the WH, the House and the Senate and still you blame the incompetence of obama on the "right".

What short and selective memories the Leftists have. Just scroll on down here and see who is the true "ragers";

http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621

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Originally Posted by MovingForward

There used to be something called, "The Loyal Opposition" in American democracy. That even if you didn't belong to the party currently in power, and didn't agree with their policies or philosophies, you still considered yourself American first and considered yourself to be loyal to your nation and your leader, extended respect even to those with whom you disagreed, and certainly to the Office of the Presidency. The concept of "loyal opposition," of course, changes with the times. When a President serves the interests of the powerful at the expense of the people, for example, or threatens the Rule of Law (the very foundation of our democracy), emotions will run high. But the right-wing opposition to Obama has nothing to do with his Presidency. It is a rising crescendo of hate that started long before his actual election. Its current level of intensity therefore has nothing to do with his political philosophies. It would be understandable that Republicans might not agree with Obama's policies, or might want to enter into debate about policy or political philosophical differences. This has happened in the past. Usually respectfully. But the level of rage and vitriol hurled at our President SINCE BEFORE HE WAS EVEN ELECTED suggests something far more diseased than mere disagreement. The names the right wing call our President: "boy," "bambam," "bubba" (among others) are degrading and offensive.

One has a difficult time figuring out what exactly Obama has done to these people to warrant this level of sick hatred. Especially when you consider that it has been going on since Palin's rallies. The nastier Palin got, the more they loved her. Never, during the campaign, did Obama say one disrespectful thing about John McCain or Sarah Palin. Never. Somehow, that made him even more suspect in their eyes. In response to his respectful adherence to civility and cordiality, not only did the right wing not return the respect in kind, they became even more enraged. Their behavior ever since has grown more diseased and hateful, and is an all-out perversion of the spirit of conservatism. William Buckley is probably turning in his grave. As is Reagan. Both of those men understood civility and respect. If they were to see the way so-called "Republicans" behave today--calling their President vile or demeaning or even racist names, marching in the street with disgusting/racist signs of disrespect, bringing guns to political rallies--they would disown them. For today, the right-wing masses behave like teeth-gnashing, racist, vile-spewing trolls. Even their leaders won't reprimand them. How can they? When the leaders themselves are just as hateful, and--in many cases--have themselves engineered the hate among the base: The corrupt and often racist politicians; FreedomWorks; or Rupert Murdoch's FOX network, wherein he has been on a mission to destroy American democracy by dividing the people. And FOX's audience is obeying the dictates of this Australian porn distributor and his henchmen--Hannity, Beck, et. al. Without even pausing to think about what happens to a nation when its people are divided.

America is a democracy. There was an election. Obama won the election. In response to his win, the right wing have not rolled up their sleeves and committed themselves to respectfully work with the duly elected President of the United States. No. Instead, they categorically reject the outcome of the election, and seek to destroy the administration, even if that means destroying the spirit of American unity in the process, and even that means destroying democracy itself. It's truly sickening. And it's time for the true conservatives--the Republicans with an understanding of dignity and decorum and respect--to either publicly and strongly condemn the behavior of their party, or publicly and strongly renounce it. We cannot allow this hatred to continue.

Do you think this name calling and hate for the opposition president started with Obama?

[Visvaldis]

The right wing reminds me of a baby in a highchair throwing a constant tantrum. He spits out his food, throws the bowl at the wall, kicks his feet, wails at the top of his lungs, pounds his little fist on the chair, screams, waves his arms, and carries on as any brat who demands attention and that everything be done to please only him.

What we have seen in America in the last 16 years is that as the concept of a land where different people with different ideas live together is a grand failure.

[Hombre57]

Originally Posted by sanrene

How can the "right" obstruct anything? They have no power, remember? You have the WH, the House and the Senate and still you blame the incompetence of obama on the "right".

What short and selective memories the Leftists have. Just scroll on down here and see who is the true "ragers";

Death Threats Against Bush at Protests Ignored for Years · zomblog

No. On gettng bills passed (like health care reform), there is no bi-partisanship, mainly because insurance company lobbyists are feeding the repugs, and a few democrats. If the democrats did a proceedural vote, then yes, they could ram bills through, much like the repugs did to the democrats when they controlled congress. Democrats have for months been trying to gain bi-partisan support, but the repugs are the party of NO. This is the main reason President Obama cannot get anything done. He's extended the hand of friendship and asked for bi-partisan support across the aisle, but every time he has, the repugs have bitten it.

And, name some incompetancies you think belong to President Obama.

People like yourself and a few others are starting bashing Obama threads by the score, and so, it is clear to see who the ragers really are. The other ragers are the conservative talkers like limpbag, o'reilly, cheney, beck, and the list of ragers goes on. The fear mongering continues.

[wjtwet]

Originally Posted by Hombre57

No. On gettng bills passed (like health care reform), there is no bi-partisanship, mainly because insurance company lobbyists are feeding the repugs, and a few democrats. If the democrats did a proceedural vote, then yes, they could ram bills through, much like the repugs did to the democrats when they controlled congress. Democrats have for months been trying to gain bi-partisan support, but the repugs are the party of NO. This is the main reason President Obama cannot get anything done. He's extended the hand of friendship and asked for bi-partisan support across the aisle, but every time he has, the repugs have bitten it.

And, name some incompetancies you think belong to President Obama.

People like yourself and a few others are starting bashing Obama threads by the score, and so, it is clear to see who the ragers really are. The other ragers are the conservative talkers like limpbag, o'reilly, cheney, beck, and the list of ragers goes on. The fear mongering continues.

Where did the name calling for the opposition presidents start.
On health care or any bill why does a Party in complete control need Bipartisan ship. Dems have all the votes why do they whine thet need Bipartisanship?