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Old 09-27-2009, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Hangin' with the bears.
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Do you ANYTHING about the law before spouting out media lies? The government did NOT reneg... the defendant TOOK HIS CHANCES that the judge would agree with the prosecutor on the terms but there is NO GUARANTEE... The prosecutor has NO AUTHORITY to determine how long a criminal would serve, they can ONLY suggest and it is UP TO THE JUDGE to determine how long... the government did NOT do anything wrong... the statue of limitations does not apply when the defendant has pled GUILTY to the crimes... it is an done and shut case... the only thing left is the penalty phase... how can you work with rape victims and know JACK CRAP about the laws...
The problem with this case is the judge agreed to the plea bargain and then reneged.

And, what the heck is wrong with you? Why can't you discuss this without attacking other posters?
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:02 PM
 
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The problem with this case is the judge agreed to the plea bargain and then reneged.

And, what the heck is wrong with you? Why can't you discuss this without attacking other posters?
What is wrong with you? The judge doesn't agree to anything UNTIL sentencing phase... you can plea all you want, the judge does not have to agree to what you plead with the prosecutor...
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Old 09-27-2009, 02:05 PM
 
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What is wrong with you? The judge doesn't agree to anything UNTIL sentencing phase... you can plea all you want, the judge does not have to agree to what you plead with the prosecutor...
You are correct, the judge didn't have to agree to anything. In this case, the judge did agree to the plea bargain and then he reneged on the deal. Fact.

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Old 09-27-2009, 03:00 PM
 
Location: California
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It seems like there are two different convos going on here, the legal issues vs the emotional reactions.
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Old 09-27-2009, 03:05 PM
 
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It seems like there are two different convos going on here, the legal issues vs the emotional reactions.
Yep.
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Old 09-27-2009, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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chielgirl, you are normally the one who goes on man hating rants when it involves rape. Why are you defending this man who seems to be the darling of the Hollywood liberal elite? At a recent awards show, Hollywood celebrities gave him a standing ovation regardless of his admitted guilt in drugging and raping a young teenage girl. Just because he wasn't charged since that time does not mean he didn't continue his criminal behavior. With modern "date rape" drugs he may have continued such actions without the victim's knowledge or enough evidence to show his guilt. Just because he's a talented director does not mean he should get away with this crime.
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Old 09-27-2009, 03:20 PM
 
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No one, chielgirl included, is defending the actions of this man. As Ceece pointed out, there are two different discussions going on here; the emotional and the legal.
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Old 09-27-2009, 03:40 PM
 
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Let him have his day in court - as far as I know there isn't a statute of limitations for fleeing the country to avoid sentencing.

Now as to Polanski himself ---- you have to remember that when he was charged, rape was a crime that either happened to virginal women at knife/gun point or it happened to a slutty girl who 'seduced' the rapist. This girl was coined the 'slutty girl' because she was into drugs and had been a runaway. Add to that a sad faced Polanski who survived concentration camps and a murdered pregnant bride and you get 42 day 'justice served'. Until they actually went to the sentencing phase of the trial.
I know from past familial experience that the public defender and DA can reach an agreement regarding sentencing, but that it is still up to the judge. The PD (in my brothers case, for example) said that they believed that X should receive X years due to his age and other circumstances in exchange for the guilty plea. The judge then asked the DA if she agreed to these terms. She did. Then the judge agreed to the terms and then added more of her own.
This was a federal court - I'm sure things have not changed that much since Polanski last faced a judge.

As to why Hollywood still loves him despite Polanski being an admitted rapist --- well, the whole notion of women being either madonna/***** is still alive and well in Hollywood.
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Old 09-29-2009, 07:41 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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It's obvious the unfortunate situation was a one-time mistake
He drugged, raped and sodomized a 13 year old girl. That is not a mistake.

Then fled the country instead of serving time.

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I just believe that Polanski's already paid his dues, and 30 years later
How did he pay his dues?
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Old 09-29-2009, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Do you ANYTHING about the law before spouting out media lies? The government did NOT reneg... the defendant TOOK HIS CHANCES that the judge would agree with the prosecutor on the terms but there is NO GUARANTEE... The prosecutor has NO AUTHORITY to determine how long a criminal would serve, they can ONLY suggest and it is UP TO THE JUDGE to determine how long... the government did NOT do anything wrong... the statue of limitations does not apply when the defendant has pled GUILTY to the crimes... it is an done and shut case... the only thing left is the penalty phase...
You are correct here.
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