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Bascially the polls shopw that the peopel oppossign the governamnt option are doing what the voters want has 89% of republicans ;62% of independent are agianst teh governamnt option. Its reflected in the democratic vote in centralist democratic states.Don't forget that most of the cngressional gains where bluedog democrats and independents decided the last three presidential elections.So if your live in a trasditional;ist blue sate you'll get to vote for the same senator or congressman as last time'
Although I would hesitate to step on a new elevator with the grossly overweight Moore, on this issue this conservative would get on a paper hang-glider with him.
No, acting like a Republican and acting in the best interests of Big Medicine is what fractured the party. Calling them on it is just a response.
I disagree. The polling data doesn't support that the majority want the public option, especially single payer. Moore and the core liberals seem to think that the Democrats owe this to them, as repayment for their strong support the last election. However, there were many voters who supported Obama and other Democrats who are less enamored with these proposals, but would support fixing the other issues discussed in this thread (such as pre-existing and purchasing plans over state lines).
Moore makes sense on this. Poor quality representatives who are just sheep to the party (on either side) should be ousted.
I think Ron Paul is a moron and his libertarian-esque policies would be horrible for the country. I respect him more than any of the other Republicans out there because he seems to be the least willing of all of them to be just a drone repeating the party platform.
Personally I think most of the Democrat policies become to compromised so they can seem bipartisan and get re-elected. After 8 years of Bush, lets ram some stuff through that can fix the problems he started and made worse.
If we really wanted better representation, I think 2 term limits in the senate and 3 term limits in the house would be fair. These career congressmen frequently do very little in terms of national policy because they're to concerned about being villified when the next election comes along.
We should also abolish lobbyists and require congressmen to be in their districts 180 days out of the year to hear the problems of the people they represent. Sadly none of this will ever get done......
How about a National Campaign to NOT reelect any incumbent Congress members, regardless of party, for the next couple of elections. Further, to set term limits in the House and Senate to not exceed 12 yrs. We would wind up with a large number of inexperienced representatives who have not yet been corrupted by greed and narcissism so prevalent now. We actually may wind up with people who run for office because they genuinely want to do what's best for America. Actually, I was watching PBS the other day, when they had 4 freshman members of Congess discussing the Health Care issue. Two Repubs and two Dems, it seemed very clear to me that those four would be able to quickly come to agreement on a plan that would accomplish much of what we need. None of these people had yet been corrupted by the power of office. Hmmmm!
Michael Moore, the gift that just keeps on giving. Love this excerpt:
Michael Moore, in town for the premiere of his new movie, stopped by a rally at the offices of Public Citizen on Tuesday to deliver a stark warning to any congressional Democrats who would dare oppose a government-run insurance plan as part of health-care legislation.
"I and a lot of other people have every intention of removing you from Congress in the next election if you stand in the way of health-care legislation that the people want,"... "We will come to your districts, and we will work against you, first in the primary, and if we have to, in the general election. . . . You think we're going to go along with you just because you're Democrats? You should think again!"
Not only open minded but thinks he has power, too. Who voted for him?
No one, but he's sold a lot of books and made a lot of money. In this country, money is power. Money and extremist talk that gets people to listen and repeat what you say.
I don't recall Ghandi or MLK being elected to anything when I read the history books. Not that Moore could compare to these two, but I'm just trying to make a point that elections don't necessarily mean power. Rush Limbaugh could be argued to have a degree of power because so many people listen to or read the crap he spews out and then repeat it, just like other people do with Michael Moore.
So...is what he is saying is that he will support an R (general election) with an even stronger view (against) out of spite. Michael Moore is a genius!
Where does he say that?
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