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Old 10-01-2009, 02:38 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Implementing this will only filter down to increased costs to the consumer. Even as a left-leaning independent, I do not believe nor trust that the current administration has the people's well being at heart. Just like the preceding administration, they political boys look out for their buddies and pass laws, etc., to make them rich. Thus is has been and thus it shall ever be. We are fooling ourselves if we think that Mr. Obama is any different.

I believe that the concept of global warming is just a ruse to help perpetuate this fraud.

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Old 10-01-2009, 02:38 PM
 
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They will do for the USA what the democrts did for California;bankrupt us.
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Old 10-01-2009, 02:40 PM
 
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The problem is that you are trusting the politicians who have every reason to lie, DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT A 'CARBON' TAX OR CREDIT IS GOING TO STOP OUR ABUSING OUR RESOURCES???

we agree that humans make too much garbage,,,,,we agree humans cut too many trees, we agree that humans dump their garbage in the oceans,,,,we agree that oil/coal is a fuel that will be gone SOMEDAY.

but to say that humans are the MAIN CAUSE is laughable.


tell me why the 'scientists' of the left WON'T MENTION the VOLCANIC activity in the polar regions????
tell me why the GW poeple WON'T admit that they MAKE the data FIT THEIR AGENDA?????
tell me why the GW people WON'T MENTION the SUN????
tell me why the GW people WON'T MENTION the POPULATION (we intake o2 and exhale co2)???
tell me why the GW people WON'T MENTION the FACT that we are constantly cutting down trees( trees are a NATUAL radiant cooler, that intake co2 and expell o2)????




why is it that the GW people ONLY mention c02 and air polution, and want a 'carbon tax'????


Honestly, no. It's aiming for too little carbon reductions, too late. But it's better than nothing.
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Old 10-01-2009, 02:43 PM
 
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They will do for the USA what the democrts did for California;bankrupt us.
Funny thing....

In California you won't blame REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR SCHWARZENEGGER I'm guessing because the financial issues of the state were caused by those before him....

YET, with regard to the nation, we CAN blame Obama. Even though he has had FAR less time in office. We can ignore the drunken spending of those who came before him who went from budget surplus, to doubling our national debt in 8 years....
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Old 10-01-2009, 02:46 PM
 
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Honestly, no. It's aiming for too little carbon reductions, too late. But it's better than nothing.
Nah, much better just to have fun, let our industry continue to belch C02 into the sky and play Nero fiddling away whilst Rome burns....
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Old 10-01-2009, 02:48 PM
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Nah, much better just to have fun, let our industry continue to belch C02 into the sky and play Nero fiddling away whilst Rome burns....
How about we put big giant corks in all the volcanoes on the planet to keep them from belching out their greenhouse gasses as well. Wouldn't that be a much more effective approach?
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Old 10-01-2009, 02:49 PM
 
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1st, Democrats are NOT socialists. The fact that you think that they are, and that socialism is somehow bad or even worse than the corporatism we're unfortunately now living in, clearly demonstrates that you don't know anything at all about the philosophy.

2nd, global warming is going to devastate this country far more than any "energy tax" will.
YES democtrats are socialists and yes it is somehow bad.

and tell the sun what global warming is going to do because the sun went to sleep a year ago and we are headed for a serious cooling.

by the way, the 12 trees in Siberia that are the root of global warming insanity got cut down the other day.

The Hockey Stick is dead!
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Old 10-01-2009, 02:49 PM
 
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Just so I get this straight... Global warming isn't happening, and if it IS, it has nothing to do with man's carbon footprint?

Okay, so this is just a big conspiracy to what? Did all the "libruls" go and invest in windmill and solar technology ahead of time and now are trying to push policy to make it pay off? Is that the claim?

Seriously, I just want to know what everyone thinks the motivation here is....

Beyond that, okay, if this administration came in with legislation that would gradually eliminate virtually ALL toxic dumping into our waterways within, say, 20 years, would you oppose it?? Why?? Because there's no proof that the chemicals being dumped in our waterways and oceans are bad??

I'm curious.


That is always my question...what the hell could it hurt?
To be free of a substance that has enriched many at the detrement of the water, air, and soil. To not have the lung ailments that cannot be denied caused or exacerbated by the fumes of this substance. Wars fought to suck this vile stuff out of the ground aren't enough of an incentive to jump on an alternative bandwagon? We have so much documented proof of the lies told to us by the oil and automobile industires. Why would anybody not be in favor of ridding us of the necessity of this crap?
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Old 10-01-2009, 02:51 PM
 
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I find it ironic that the week that saw AGW take its biggest hit EVER is the same week these to socialist idiots come out with a plan to "fight" something that doesnt exist.
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Old 10-01-2009, 02:51 PM
 
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How about we put big giant corks in all the volcanoes on the planet to keep them from belching out their greenhouse gasses as well. Wouldn't that be a much more effective approach?
Again, since we "Can't do anything about it." why try?? You pretty much exemplified the attitude I was trying to highlight...

Undersea volcanoes also release toxins into our oceans. F*** IT!!!! May as well dump all of OUR toxins there too, right?
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